It actually does. Calling violence against those who were democratically elected undermines the democracy that such callers claim they proudly support.
I can think of some other notable leaders who were democratically elected, only to erode those systems to secure a permanent grasp on power and use it for monstrous things.
I didn't like the outcome of the election, but, accusations of voter suppression aside, it was thrown away by the Dems as much as it was won by Trump, so there wasn't much to contest.
The election didn't inspire anyone to start writing essays like this - or if it did, no one gave them the time of day. It's what's been done in the months since that has people lighting torches & sharpening their pitchforks.
I don't really expect this reply to change your mind. But give it time - the way things are going in DC, it'll end up hurting you too. And that might.
Then you and your side do not believe in democracy. Stop pretending you do; it would be wonderful if you can admit that your form of ideal government is something else.
Nothing the Trump administration has done in the past few months warrants any assassinations. To believe otherwise makes you delusional and evil.
Shame on everyone who liked your comment. If anyone else wants to refute Inactivist, please do so.
Yours is a Red Herring Fallacy. This blog is about the author writing a Straw Man Fallacy and poorly disguised passive/aggressive rant titled: When Must We Kill Them?" Try to stay on topic. ADHD?
of course there's an entire article explaining the authors thought process and you say its about losing an election. Are you an idiot or troll - can only be 1?
Your typo ridden comment indicates a poor education or intellectual laziness. The author wrote a Straw Man Fallacy, quote: "If the present administration should cancel elections; if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process; if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, and jail its political adversaries; if it ignores the will of Congress; if it should directly spurn the orders of the court; all these are reasons for revolution." Prove me wrong!
It has to do with falsely equivalency of comparing violent illegals being detained and sent to prisons in their home countries and that of US citizens somehow being deprived of their rights. One is not the other and it will not leaf to the other. All the other fears mentioned like censoring political opponents, prosecuting and imprisoning political opponents, targeting dissident media etc this has all already been done by the left. You fools set the standard, because you're so brainwashed that you believe your opponents are fascists or racists or whatever buzz word which has became the left wing stand in for evil, or dehumanized, and as such justifies all action against. We'll every time you push you get an equal opposite reaction, so hold on tight.
I'm going to guess you probably don't really care about accuracy, but the people being abducted (not deported, deportation is a legal process which is not being followed here) are not being sent to their home countries. They are being sent to a third party gulag in El Salvador. If you want to mass deport people who are here illegally, that has its own set of problems and I obviously don't agree with it but at least that would have a legal process. What's being done is not legal, and it leads to the exact problems we've seen in that there's no way to know if the people being confined are actually guilty of anything. There is no due process being done, and by the administrations own admission they have obtained some people by mistake and then simply decided oh well it doesn't matter if they were legal, they're brown so into the gulag they go. And if you want to follow that to its logical conclusion, Trump himself has said he wants to find a way to do the same to US citizens. And if you're ok with that, well, I don't really know what to say. But I have a feeling that of Joe Biden had been sending the Proud Boys to foreign internment camps that you'd be screaming bloody murder.
Here's the issue. The left had zero problems with mass importing these people, yet you demand exhaustive due process to remove the exact same people. Everything the left does get hand waved through, and when the right try to reverse you the left drags its heels.
There's no abduction in taking illegal aliens and sending them back to their country. Each deportation is the result of an investigation that has declared the individual illegal, and it has nothing to do with looking at skin color. That's a lie, and to say there is no process is also outright false.
Your proposal would take decades if not centuries to get it all done. Why get in the country legally when you can just cross the border and never worry about going to court while you're alive? Quit being so ridiculous.
Take your gaslighting and stick it where the sun don’t shine, you social Marxist pond scum. All people who are in this country illegally are criminals and not citizens of the US. Those two factors eliminate a “legal process” as you call it. GFY
You not understanding the laws of the United States does not make your comment seem "smart".
In some cases, a noncitizen is subject to expedited removal without being able to attend a hearing in immigration court. Expedited removal may happen when a noncitizen:
Comes to the U.S. without proper travel documents
Uses forged travel documents
Does not comply with their visa or other entry document requirements.
Your Proud Boy Non Sequitur Fallacy is sophomoric and ridiculous!
I would say before you decide your choice to bring violent action on someone, you better be damn sure your information is accurate.
For example, what if people had decided to bring violent action against those who chose not to get vaccinated?
Maybe people were seriously injured or killed.
Then you find out that prevailing narrative was not only wrong, the government KNEW it was wrong but allowed the false narrative to perpetuate and spread to accomplish their goals. IOW. You were used.
Read upon Color Revolution our own government used in foreign countries to change leadership to their preferred candidate.
Maybe you are ok with that. Lies? Sure, you say, but if it accomplishes the goal of cutting off Hydra’s head, so be it, right?
Problem is, it never works in the long run. So make sure before you lift your rod against your fellow citizens, read from and talk to people who disagree with you.
> all the other fears like censoring political… already done by the left
“BoTh SiDeS” nonsense again.
Go ahead and help me understand the lefts equivalent. Fascism is about patterns, degrees, and accumulation over time and not about singular actions. It’s like a checklist, but one where how often and how deeply the boxes are checked matters most.
Trump has been at it for years and has accumulated more than any person you can point to by a long shot
1. Undermining electoral integrity
2. Incitement of political violence
3. Attacks on the press
4. Use of dehumanizing language
5. Admiration for authoritarian leaders
6. Suppression of dissent
7. Nationalist and xenophobic policies
8. Disregard for legal norms
9. Cult of personality
10. Erosion of democratic institutions
11. Undermining authority of courts
> You fools set the standard,
The only fools are those blind to who Trump is and run constant defense, obfuscate, and justify the actions of the shiftiest and most corrupt, inept, pathological lying President in history.
Funny how the comment you’re replying to has reasoned arguments and analysis and all you responded with is a gay anecdote and a bunch of tired insults. “Racist redneck!” That’s all you have, and it doesn’t work when it comes from a bunch of satanic fucking pedophiles like you, you dickless, low-t worm. Fuck you and your wife, cuck.
You may find it difficult to prove your claim, quote: "This has nothing to do with losing the election you moron." Why? Because proving a negative involves inductive reasoning, which is based on probabilities rather than certainty.
The positive is that the best man, Trump, won the election. Harris lost because she is incompetent. Ask yourself this question: would the author have written this Straw Man Fallacy with the homicidal title "When Must We Kill Them?" if nincompoop Harris was elected?
So. Your stance is that winning an election means the rule of law no longer applies. An elected official can do anything they want? regardless of constitutionality?
Greg Palast...... there is a name I haven't seen in a while...... but fitting that you cited Palast who openly celebrated Ronald Reagan's death. You people are sick.
Are you serious? “Tell me about a time trump supporters wanted to assassinate someone APART FROM the time they stormed the capitol with the intention of assassinating democrats”.
And show me one instance in which an 'assassination of democrats' was attempted within the last two decades. On January 6th or at any other time.
A deranged Lefty nutcase shot up a gathering of Republican legislators as they practiced for a charity baseball game, leaving at least one of them damaged for life with continual and perpetual rehabilitation and therapy in front of him
US Senator Schumer loudly and proudly threatened US Supreme Court justices by name as he stood on the steps of the US Supreme Court, cheered on by a whistle blowing, drum beating, slogan chanting, angry mob.
A deranged Lefty nutcase who believed that he was a female shot up a Christian school in Nashville Tennessee, killing many people just because they were Christians. No other reason was given in his far ranging and unhinged manifesto. This unhinged, gender, dysphoric nutcase displayed the sort of delusional thinking that has the full throated and total support of Tim Walz , who is the miserably failed 2024 Democrat vice presidential candidate and current Minnesota governor. Without provocation, Lefty Walz described himself as a knucklehead and a train wreck.
A deranged Lefty nutcase shot the tip of President Trump’s ear off at a crowded political rally in Pennsylvania. One of his murderous rounds managed to kill a firefighter who was a father and husband. He wounded many others.
A deranged Lefty nutcase is now a Lefty folk hero after he travelled to New York City (which has been controlled by Democrats for decades) and committed cold-blooded murder by shooting an insurance CEO in the back multiple times, leaving three young girls without their father.
A deranged Lefty nutcase killed his family in Wisconsin, then lived with their rotting corpses for several weeks as he marinated in his own hatred, developing his plan to facilitate a Lefty international agenda of chaos and disruption. Then he headed out to kill President Trump and Vice President Vance and start a Lefty revolution in the USA.
And now a deranged Lefty nutcase, who is an antisemite, pro-Palestinian terrorist, and an angry and agitated activist for Lefty causes, attempted to set Pennsylvania governor Shapiro‘s house on fire while the house was occupied by many men, women, and children as they celebrated Passover.
Around our nation, and also around the world, many Lefty nutcases were utilizing the Lefty anarchist’s favorite DIY weapon( Molotov cocktail) , as they smashed and set ablaze privately owned Teslas, destroyed Tesla dealerships, and defaced Tesla vehicles with hate-filled graffiti and the universal symbol of universal evil; the swastika.
But please, tell us again about Jan 6 and the threat to “our democracy”.
Y'all are pathetic. Just. Pathetic.
Y'all need to check yourselves. Whether it's inwardly, or to the nearest mental hospital. Y'all are downright deranged and a threat to society.
The fact is we are pretty evenly divided and Trump did NOT win by any crazy large amount of votes. We all just need to calm down a bit, lick our wounds and fight with better, more well educated opponents. I voted for better choices. Not a FELON and a aging senior that I don't think had all his mental faculties.
You commies have a right to cry about and question an election. Fine. You don't have the right to call for or participate in or cheerlead violence against your political enemies.
They not only lost it. They gave the win to DT because they ignored a d refused to reign in the extremes of their side. The haters re-elected DT, that simple kids.
It’s not “triggered” to point out that the professional managerial class utterly dependent on a state monopoly on violence is totally incapable of any physical force. You aren’t scary on your own, the federal thugs you send to kick people’s doors in are.
He's just a kid, barely out of his parents household. His writing is inflammatory, no doubt intended to attract attention. It worked. He appears to be a narcissist but maybe not. Just a kid.
It worked a little too well. Nicholas was visited by the Secret Service earlier tonight and now his life is ruined. Yet another lonely kid on the spectrum, desperate for admiration, radicalized by terminally online grifters and activists into doing something he never would have done otherwise. It's extremely sad.
He likely won't be able to really comprehend the consequences of what happened today for some time. Kid isn't even old enough to drink yet.
I for one applaud Nicholas' bravery and his willingness to state what needs to be said. It was only 5 years ago that MAGA tried a coup, and now their criminal Cult-leader pardons his convicted Seditionist foot-soldiers, his administration bypasses Congress and the Courts, invokes the Alien and Sedition acts to send those convicted of no crime to extrajudicial prisons, silencing political dissidents, all of this qualifies as Treason against the United States. And Treason is punishable by Death.
The Supreme Court ordered Trump to stop. He is not deporting people, he is kidnapping them and human trafficking them. Trump now musing about sending U.S. Citizens to El Salvador.
It becomes clearer every day that MAGA is an existential threat to America. I would take up arms against MAGA before I ever turned against migrants. Eventually it will become necessary to fight your Demonic cult with more than just words.
This “kid” is disturbed. This “article” is the tip of the iceberg. Want to know what else he supports? Pedophiles and allowing children access to pornography. But go ahead, keep defending the indefensible
The "J6 anti national retards" don't call for violence against elected politicians, you dummy. That comes from your side. In that case, it really is better for you to be gone than to commit such a crime.
If the J6 crowd was out for blood, then they would have had it.
Clearly, they weren't. They killed no one. It wasn't "3%" violent, and therefore peaceful -- which is the official reigning narrative defending the BLM riots. It wasn't 1% violent.
All J6ers should have been gunned down. I hope Trump's pardon list becomes a hit-list, and these traitors are found and rooted out of their homes, and executed on the spot. Ashley Babbitt wasn't enough. MAGA must face more punishment.
Isn’t the entire conservative identity built around protecting freedom from tyranny😭 yall wanted to lynch Obama so bad but now Trump is disappearing American citizens and yall are just lining up to suck his cock. So crazy
His mother isn't the one calling for violence against elected politicians, you dummy. That comes from your side. In that case, it really is better for you to be gone than to commit such a crime.
Lord have mercy on MAGA, followers of an Anti-Christ destined for an eternity of merciless torment, for their Treason against America and betrayal of God. The suffering they have caused in this life will be repaid to them ten-fold in the afterlife.
The "fascist incel cucks" (whoever they are) aren't calling for violence against elected politicians, you dummy. That comes from your side. In that case, it really is better for you to be gone than to commit such a crime.
The right wing manifesto couldn’t exist because there aren’t enough literate people on that side to make sense of it. Nowhere here did the author say that we should kill people because the left lost an election. He’s saying an executive flagrantly defying court orders and grabbing more and more power for itself is a threat to liberty and it’s important to treat it as such. If you disagree with that premise you disagree with the author of the Declaration of Independence, which is your own problem.
The author of the Declaration of Independence was a rapist and a slave owner. And even worse: a white male. As a good leftist, surely you agree we should ignore everything he said, correct?
One of the most entertaining parts of reading Trump sycophants responding to any statement I make is their complete projection of their simplistic understanding of everything on to me. I am not a leftist and identify not at all with any leftist movement, but for you, the bare fact that I am willing to criticize Trump, calling a spade a spade, is enough for your brain to conclude that I must be a blue haired demon ready to nuke the country to perform land acknowledgments. Next time at least try to address the argument before hallucinating in your reply.
Sure, you just have the compulsive need to accuse a person critical of Trump of being a white hating leftist who wants to ignore the slave-owning rapist Thomas Jefferson, the typical behavior of politically neutral observers.
he had children with his slave. can never tell whether people like you are in childish denial or you're just willfully lying to make it seem like having sex with someone you own in chattel slavery actually isn't that bad
I see literally nothing wrong with his spelling, grammar or punctuation. So your accusation of sub-literacy is as empirically fantastical as your side's constant ad hominem accusations of racism, sexism and "fascism".
I was calling him stupid because his response to me calling rightoids illiterate was “well Trump won the election,” to which the obvious response is, “those two things aren’t connected in any way.” Maybe if you were literate you would have picked up on that.
Lol you say you're not a leftist but then you totally out yourself as a leftist by using leftist terminology. Really? You're not a leftist using terms like "rightoids"? The only people I've ever seen using that are leftists. So nice try at attempting to hide your affiliation, but you just shot yourself in the foot.
Literacy tests are actually not allowed in America. Illiterate morons can vote. And I'm all for that, however they also get to suffer the consequences.
Still not a lefist, and it’s more derisive hyperbole than clueless arrogance. Ultimately a majority of Americans are functionally illiterate because they struggle to sit and read anything longer than a tweet, but it is still a statement I would generally stand by. Genuine engagement with ideas is negatively correlated with support for Trump, the archon of conservatism in America today. And when I say archon I mean it in both the literal Greek meaning of ruler as well as the Gnostic idea of the archons of the seven planets that prevent souls from leaving the material realm. Trump and Trumpism is a mental ailment that traps its followers from critical thought.
By parroting the author's Straw Man Fallacy, your comment indicates you are also ignorant of Civics 101. The Executive branch, led by the President, enforces laws, spends money as authorized by Congress, and can declare states of emergency.
The Straw Man: "executive flagrantly defying court orders". The Executive Branch ENFORCES Federal laws.
Local courts, state courts deal with state law like traffic violations, misdemeanors, disputes, local matters, etc.
Federal courts primarily handle cases involving federal laws and the Constitution.
Example; deporting illegal aliens is enforcing federal law, not state law. You should have learned this in basic civics class.
By parroting the author's Straw Man Fallacy, your comment indicates you are also ignorant of Civics 101. The Executive branch, led by the President, enforces laws, spends money as authorized by Congress, and can declare states of emergency.
The Straw Man: "executive flagrantly defying court orders". The Executive Branch ENFORCES Federal laws.
Local courts, state courts deal with state law like traffic violations, misdemeanors, disputes, local matters, etc.
Federal courts primarily handle cases involving federal laws and the Constitution.
Example; deporting illegal aliens is enforcing federal law, not state law. You should have learned this in basic civics class.
Meanwhile a white supremacist just shot up a school in Florida a couple days ago. We wouldn’t be so addicted to “screeching” about it if want white supremacist psychos weren’t addicted to mass killing
Did you see that the “white supremacist” was actually a staunch left wing militant? Hmmm? Did you see that part? He has wanted to assassinate Trump for months.
While you’re at it, look up the black punk who shot up the school in Dallas. I bet you missed that news since it doesn’t support your narrative.
You’re outclassed in this discussion. Go back to your TikTok videos. And remember, men can’t get pregnant. You freak.
Did you just decide to only make statements pulled directly from your ass? The publicly available statements on the opinions of Phoenix Ikner come from his classmates who say that, allegedly, Ikner said blacks were ruining his neighborhood and Rosa Parks was in the wrong. Either provide a source connecting him to the “militant left” or shut up: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/04/17/who-florida-shooter-suspect/83146360007/
Tell you what, Parker. Tell me about the Dallas school shooter. Since he’s black, he doesn’t fit your narrative. But go ahead and stretch your brain a bit and pull up the details on the Dallas school shooter. I bet your woke ass didn’t even know a black punk shot up a school in Dallas. Oh, and tell me about all the violent tranny freaks that are burning down Tesla dealerships. Or the violent woke freaks who attack Tesla drivers. Or the Hamastitutes who attack Jewish students on university campuses. Or how about the professors who attack students because they wear red hats? But, yeah, go ahead and freak out about “white supremacy” or whatever your panties are twisted on. You tranny groomers are hilarious.
So no evidence about Phoenix Ikner being a leftie? I have no reason to deny things if they are appropriately reported, but you seem fine pulling whatever out of your ass and then pivoting to your dialogue tree when cornered with contrary evidence. Someone else brought up FSU, you said something wrong, I told you that you were wrong, you drool on your keyboard over “trannies.” Wanna acknowledge you were talking out of your ass?
Cool story. Now do the Tesla Dealer firebombers and the arsonist at the PA Governor’s mansion. Oh, and don’t forget the Hamas crowd who attacks Jewish students at universities. Get back to me when you do your homework. And remember, men can’t get pregnant.
Why? That's assuming the Tesla bomber did something wrong or that Israel is right to cannibalize children, or that Donald Trump is actually a legitimate leader of our country.
Erica you need to calm down. I know you spend your days with your panties twisted on how to groom children ideology, but clearly you are deranged. Feminism hasn’t been good to you. Stop wearing masks. And remember, men can’t get pregnant. And men don’t belong in women’s sports. Men don’t have a cock and balls. You feminist boomer loser.
What type of "thinking" is it when you call people who do not agree with you "MAGAt"? Most people grew out of this bullying behavior in jr. high. When this behavior is continued into adulthood, it is an indication of narcissistic gaslighting.
What type of "thinking" is it and what exactly do you mean by your MASH chorus comment?
Ouch ... If he were to do that it would be defeating the purpose with him coming to no intelligent conclusion about anything. He would spend his last breath drowning in his current madness. All we need is to win the day and show him what real sense and sanity and intelligence are and for him to live in that world for the rest of his days, and MAYBE, before the end, he might just begin to understand how he's been duped his whole life.
“For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments”
Charges levied against George the Third by known Maoist Thomas Jefferson
Meanwhile a white supremacist just shot up a school in Florida a couple days ago. We wouldn’t be so addicted to “screeching” about it if want white supremacist psychos weren’t addicted to mass killing
As I am in total belief...The EVIL FUCKS (the Dems ) Tell the LYING FUCKS (the lame stream media) what to supply to the STUPID FUCKS that listen to their dribble and shit like this.
The EVIL left HATES AMERICA....IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE.........
Democrats prove over and again they are the party of violence. Two assassination attempts on Trump. Murder a CEO. Attack Jewish students at colleges and universities. Burn down Tesla dealerships. Kill anyone who voted for Trump. Pure Marxism.
I work in a feed store in the deep south, when the ceo of united got shot, half the farmers in my area said served him right. Other half said "Now for the rest of em". They aren't leftists where I'm at. These are Maga hat wearing rebel flag flying Trumpers.
Ah. I’ll remind you that men can’t get pregnant. And surgically mutilating and chemically castrating children isn’t healthcare. But you pedo tranny groomers love to fantasize that men are women too after you burn down Tesla dealerships. Freak.
I'd like to point out that Nancy Pelosi's husband and Governor Josh Shapiro's mansion were presumably not attacked by rabid leftists.
I agree that political violence is a problem; I'm less sure than you that it is the exclusive domain of the left. (As another old example, pretty sure it wasn't a leftist who drove a car into a crowd of counter-protestors in Charlottesville.)
If we can agree that violence and violating the rule of law is a problem, we can work together to prevent it. I'm concerned that you might be selectively blind to the magnitude of the issue on the right.
(Also, to be honest, if all leftists and Democrats truly wanted to "kill anyone who voted for Trump", I kind of feel like there would be a lot more dead people wearing MAGA hats. I don't mean to minimize how horrible such an occurrence would be, but the fact that it hasn't happened and isn't currently happening suggests that you are at the very least being hyperbolic, and without discernible positive effect.)
Just because it is not *exclusive* doesn’t change the reality that such violence is in fact overwhelmingly left-coded today.
Or the fact that left- coded violence is sympathized with and justified by the media, while right- coded violence is not only condemned but used to smear all who are right of center
I agree with the first part of your latter sentence but would dispute the rest.
As I see it, right-coded violence is not consistently used as a smear, because the left tends to default to calling people racist or stupid rather than violent in the majority of cases. Saying this as someone at a liberal college.
As for who is more violent, Trump normalized it to a great extent and it definitely seems to be a major problem on both sides. (In terms of using rage and fear especially, Trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric kind of lit the spark that ignited both sides, at least to an extent.
Glad you responded as a coherent and thoughtful person; I'm usually expecting a bot or a troll.
It's old news at this point. They tried to kill him before they even had the election. The American people rejected this death cult, but they're not going away. It's past time they were assisted to do so.
Didn't the American Revolution entail, I don't know, violence against tyranny? Which is violence against the people? It's obvious to everyone with clear eyes that this is not about "losing an election," it's about losing our constitutional rights and freedoms. Presidents don't get to lock people up just by ordering it.
Let me speak plainly. I do not approve of illegal immigration because I believe that people should follow established legal processes. However, I do not believe in detaining people and sending them to a prison in El Salvador based on their tattoos, precisely *because* I believe in the RULE OF LAW. Illegals and criminals should be punished according to the ways the law punishes them, not according to the whims of the president. If the SCOTUS rules that someone was wrongly detained, deported, and imprisoned, the executive should carry out the court's order. And when deporting people, we should do so according to the legal process - that's what immigration law if f*cking for. An illegal immigrant should be treated as a gang member if and only if we have legal reason to consider them as such as established in court. (As a patriotic supporter of American values, I take innocent until proven guilty to heart. Which isn't to say that I don't believe in preventing and punishing crime.)
What the Trump administration is trying to do with regard to due process is not a question of "losing an election." (Not to mention other unconstitutional actions like trying to overturn birthright citizenship, established in the 14th Amendment.) THIS IS NOT F*CKING NORMAL.
I do not approve of political violence, but to say that Nick et al. are calling for violent revolution simply because they lost is idiotic. If you continue to pursue such an argument, I will be forced to conclude that you are an idiot.
In any case, have a nice day. And if you believe that views such as those espoused by Nick are a problem, perhaps try to use arguments that have more than a grain of truthful basis in reality. You catch more flies with honey, after all.
It’s okay to punch Nazis, and it’s okay to punch MAGA. Don’t like it? Don’t be MAGA. Simple as. You have that choice. Meanwhile, our only choice is to fight or die.
I’d love to see you try to throw a punch. Any time you want to dance with a real man, let me know. In the meantime, see if you can put together two pushups without stopping. You fat fuck.
So many assumptions, hehe. You like dancing with real men, don't you? Being closeted is okay, ya know? Just come out! I'm sure the people around you will not be violent and angry at that. I may be fat, but the only fuck I give is the one I have with your mum, you nazi piece of garbage.
Yes, as a right-winger, this is very important to me. If Substack can cancel left-wingers under right-wing pressure, it can cancel right-wingers under left-wing pressure. Resist any urge to pressure Substack!
My Substack is linked right in the header of this comment. My Substack has links to my old Wordpress blog. You can very easily find *extensive* evidence in both places that I am a free-speech rule-of-law right-winger.
If I'm being disingenuous, I've written hundreds of thousands of word over the course of more than a decade to give myself an effective cover.
Yes, your devotion to the craft of lying is... admirable? Detestable? Loathesome? I don't know, but I wouldn't put you on any councils regarding defense of free speech.
Since you have apparently decided, based on (as far as I can tell) literally nothing at all except my conservatism, that everything I say is a lie, I suppose there's very little point in my saying anything further! Cheerio! Wish you the best on your epistemic difficulties!
Oh yeah, you're a real gross individual. This gave me all I needed to know everything else about you. Most likely an apologist for the worst of the worst. Glad to not speak to you again. Byebye.
No, it's liberalism. You may have heard of it. It was a very good idea they had a few hundred years ago where we give rights even to people who are wrong, and it has spared the world immense bloodshed.
I admit, this particular combination of bugaboos does not show up on a lotta bingo cards.
I take it you're far-left, then? Usually people who say that are communists, but that would be surprising in your case, since the retort would be obvious.
Also commenting that Anatoly Karlin is a coddled manchild and actually thought "erm achskually" would work when writing inflammatory shit like this. These are the type of midwits that take advantage of young, impressionable men like Nicholas (who are completely aimless in life and desperate for validation & approval) and gas them up over time with likes and retweets until they eventually post something like this and find out.
Nick is on the spectrum, naive, and terminally online. And as of today he got a visit by the secret service and fucked his entire life up in a way that he can't even comprehend yet. Naturally his side doesn't care, he's just another gullible pawn that served his purpose for the grinder to further the divisive hatred. It's easy to forget that this is a real kid - the internet will leave him behind and forget but the consequences of what he did won't change. This guy cant even drink yet and should be getting ready summer vacation now his life has changed forever.
Oh believe me, I certainly agree we need this to stay up. This is what the 1st Amendment was made for. This man has declared himself my enemy and explained why I need to be killed. I want that information.
I don’t actually understand what you mean, due to how poorly you wrote it, but I think you are implying that what he wrote is actually correct. From his perspective I suppose sure. The problem is his perspective is wrong.
That is the standard move of people who think they are quite intelligent when they are not. When they spout bullshit, and people are confused by that bullshit, instead of considering the idea that maybe they cannot communicate effectively, they instead just tell themselves they are very smart and the people who don’t understand are stupid. It is a form of Duning-Kruger.
While I see it more often from supposed Leftists, it is not uncommon from people on the Right.
But yes… we are all in agreement this should stay up, even if the reasoning of why varies
Just kidding, I get what you're saying, even though it could have been said in far fewer words so you didn't look like a sophistic teen lmao. Still, you're highly uninformed.
Of course. Let the idiots out themselves. And this is truly spectacular idiocy. Evil has come to America? I’m putting this in my TDS exhibit. It’s so laughable ahistorical it deserves its own category.
I've only read you very little but the impression I got is that you probably don't really dig this fellow's generally presumed lgbtqrstd001+ vibe which, if correct, makes your comment noteworthy.
Plus, as I recall Limbaugh saying as he struggled to explain why he wasn't denouncing some proto-woke fellow whose head was on the censoring block (I have no recollection who), "listen guys, I'm in the free speech business"...
Or, as Lennon said — "People of Unpopular Speech Unite!"
I don't know, the dissapearing of multiple college students for like criticizing Israel and the genocide they're committing to the Palestinians in Gaza (and the involvement of the US and the colleges they attend)
you are such a cowardly liar - you know you can not defend the reality of what is happening so you have to pretend — they have detained legal residents of this country for having an opinion about the politics of a foreign country halfway across the globe. All you people ever do is bitch and piss and moan about how it is nazi fascism for someone to ask you to use pronouns, but the President threatening to send US Citizens to a torture prison in El Salvador or detaining and disappearing people for criticizing Israel and you have nothing to say because you love having Trump’s fat chode cock gape your bussy hole like the little slut bitch you are
You really shouldn't waste your time engaging with these creatures, they're basically zombies with no conscience or personality who offer nothing to the world.
Criminals illegally in our country are not entitled to due process. Clinton and Obama deported millions without due process because they aren’t entitled to due process! Were you up in arms over that? NO! Because the Marxist Media were all on board with those 2 scumbags deporting ILLEGALS so they weren’t inciting mindless Americans to be enraged! These DeepState controlled media morons don’t give 2 hoots about ILLEGALS being deported! They are paid to HATE TRUMP AND INCITE THEIR BRAINDEAD VIEWERS TO HATE TRUMP! They can’t control him because they don’t own him so YOU MUST HATE HIM and DESTROY HIM before he stops THEM FROM DESTROYING AMERICA!
This is patently ridiculous. Who decides what meets the level of fraud that justifies violence? Because many people on the right claimed fraud in the 2020 election, people on the left claimed fraud in 2016, and lest we forget the 2000 election and Bushs brother who kept recounting Florida until he got the result he wanted... many people thought that was fraud as well. If we each decide for ourselves when violence is justified instead of working to deescalate, the outcomes are terrible. There aren't any good wars, that's a myth.
Jeff, Biden did not disobey institutions. He was very deferential, such as when he scrapped a minimum wage increase cause of the “Senate parliamentarian”’s nonbinding advice.
Do you recall him ignoring and lying about a 9-0 Supreme Court decision like Trump did this week?
Fact check: false. Bidens student loan forgiveness? Obamas 'dreamers'? Leftists defy the courts and choose to feign ignorance whenever it works for them.
I also remember democrats, to include Senators and Congressman, claiming that the Supreme Court was illegitimate. I wonder if I scrolled through all your comments if I might find similar statements.
I remember Biden calling the courts decisions “extreme “ and wanting to reform the court when their checks and balances interfered with his agenda.
I remember Biden not enforcing the law and allowing protestors to intimidate Supreme Court justices outside their homes.
You pathetic loony leftoids get your europeon communist regurgitated cud chewing orders from soros and his felonious circle jerk every morning and then prance right about in fancy form saying the same stupid shit every time. You are fucking cartoons. You pathetic losers have no comprehension of actual history or the cost of anything. None of you have the balls or self-reflection to ever stand up on your own two feet and admit that everything you've ever done was democide.
And consequently, as always, communists never know what reality is, let alone conceiving of what contacting it means. So you keep your degenerate, delusional circle jerk going. It won't ever work for you, it has never worked for you, but it does kill lots of people and steal all their shit and since you pieces of shit don't care where your next high comes from, you'll keep being vile hominid psychopaths until someone stops you.
These mind controlled morons regurgitate propaganda spewed by their Marxist college handlers and fake news media talking heads. They are too lazy to actually research anything. They have zero critical thinking skills, zero wisdom and zero discernment. They are indoctrinated, programmed and they will be enslaved. They will own nothing and think they are happy! Until they are eliminated by their masters when the depopulation agenda is fully unleashed on them.
No one. Thats not something you as an individual should decide for everyone. Instead you should decide for yourself which institutions to engage with. In my ideal world, all institutions should be voluntary. In practice, which institutions are legitimate is decided through force- but well designed voluntary can and should outcompete them.
How does your worldview apply if undercover ICE agents who are refusing to identify themselves kidnap you and try to deport you to spend the rest of your life in a foreign prison? Can I voluntarily opt out of that?
This doesn’t sound voluntary at all. It doesn’t even sound like the social contract America used to have, where I comply with law enforcement that a) identifies itself and b) can be held accountable in court if it violates my rights.
Can we opt out of ATF and FBI terrorists bashing down doors at 5:30 AM with CNN in tow for paperwork violations or praying in front of an abortion clinic?
Your hypothetical is a bit weird, but yes it's a good question - how to engage with institutions and individuals who are violent? The answer is deescalation. In the case of the state, that looks like compliance and exercising rights to the extent they are allowed. Even though your situation is hypothetical, the US has in fact punished people for many decades for exercising freedom of speech. The proper response is to understand the unwritten rules, comply as possible, and find ways to exercise speech that minimize risks to your person. Becoming a martyr, a terrorist, or a rebel hasn't worked well for people in the US over the last dew decades who were exercising what they believed to be their constitutional rights- the people that survived and have even made victories have followed these strategies.
Yes, of course they are if you think about it for more than a few seconds. You're imposing extreme harms on people who never agreed to them. Even if you think that foreign rulers are bad, which itself is questionable, peaceful independence is historically common and effective.
Perhaps you shouldn’t have sucker-punched the right with lawfare, going after their children in schools, illegally flying millions of immigrants into the country, etc?
Everything Trump is doing is a reaction to illegal leftist overreach. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
I could write you a book. I have better things to do because I’m not a leftist, so I don’t view victimhood as currency, and I don’t believe you possess empathy anyway, not for people you don’t respect, the kind of respect boxers have for another boxer that broke their nose. But briefly I’ll give you a glimpse into how we see things so that maybe you can understand. What we, who have all had this experience and thus banded together to elect a champion to represent us, who were in the process of being rendered stateless by you and yours, have realized is that you cannot treat us fairly until you have been returned with interest the barbarity you visited upon us for over a decade. We have to know you will flinch at the thought of hurting us again. Every thought of striking us, in misplaced fanatical devotion to your new religion tied inextricably to the thought of our inevitable vengeance, done not out of pleasure but for self-preservation and threat deterrence. Like Ender grabbing that statue and beating his larger and more numerous bullies with it, kicking them when they’re on the ground, and telling them “You might be thinking of ganging up on me. But remember what I do to people who try to hurt me.”
When this is over, and it’s your turn at the wheel again, you will be expected to govern like we are your countrymen and neighbors. That’s the only way this ends in America continuing to be a unified and wealthy country and doesn’t end with the side that has more guns doing what the side that has more guns does when the system we put in place to avoid civil war is betrayed and co-opted by people to whom nothing is sacred, who respect no boundaries unless forced to. These are the new rules, you may recognize them, they’re the old rules we had all agreed to before you decided to change them to be gay race communists: No more racial discrimination. No more lawfare. No more replacement immigration. No more anti white rhetoric in the institutions. Just be normal and fair and love freedom, including that of your political rivals, and consider yourselves lucky that there is a path back to the old normal, that we are willing (for now) to let bygones be bygones after the blood price has been satisfied. That’s all you have to do, agree to a truce after we’ve each taken our licking. If you can’t do that, if you can’t be an American and have a country, you can just leave. But you will not run roughshod over us again and then cry crocodile tears when we do what you end up forcing us to do to survive.
So still abstractions and metaphors and literary quotes to try to shoehorn profundity into your tantrum over issues that have directly affected your life in no way whatsoever, coupled with wishcasting and fanfiction painting your "side" as some warrior class. Extremely faggy.
If you need it to be explained to you how replacement immigration, discrimination in college admissions, discrimination in employment, a culture of racial and sex-based hatred and disenfranchisement, a legal system designed to destroy our families with mass divorce and take our children from us, the legal persecution of our party leaders with jurisdiction shopping and abuse of the legal system’s structure without regard for its intention, directly affect people’s lives including mine if they end up on the wrong side of it due to the immutable conditions of their birth, I don’t know what to tell you. But you do know. You don’t care. We will make you care if only by fear of retaliation because you are too morally undeveloped to care otherwise
Think through carefully what you're saying, and the consequences step by step. Someone who is the same as you, but has an opposite political orientation, would say the same thing about yourself. "Those crazy libtards destroying liberty, defrauding the election, Bla bla. Civil War now!" So your position is symmetrical on an individual level- this means any violence you act will condone violence by the other side. However, it gets worse. The other side controls the Supreme Court, Presidency, House, and Senate. Furthermore they have numbers on their side, with more voters. If you start acting out your violent fetish, you should expect the other side to respond in kind. But since the other side controls the levers of power, you lose. This failure of direct action is a hard won lesson by Americans fighting for liberty in the USA, as we are an even smaller minority so our realm of action is even more limited. But it is possible to make small victories forwards by being strategic and disavowing violence.
Think through carefully what you're saying, and the consequences step by step. Someone who is the same as you, but has an opposite political orientation, would say the same thing about yourself. "Those crazy libtards destroying liberty, defrauding the election, Bla bla. Civil War now!"
You mean what right-wingers have been doing since the 90s? The militia movement was *immense* during Clinton!
And the poor always do the actual fighting. How many poor people are they going to inspire to lay down their lives for trans bathrooms and open borders? Those are luxury beliefs, poor people can’t afford them.
So that leaves trying to militarize the illegals themselves? But those people fled violent nations to get here: if they’re going to get killed for principles, they could be doing it for their home countries. And bringing in immigrants to kill (poor) Americans isn’t going to play well, and in fact would prove Rightist propaganda.
Let's say you're right. How to address the symmetry of your position, while managing the asymmetry of actual power? The right can (and does) say the same things about your side you're saying about theirs. If you take direct violent action, because they control the levers of power you will just end up suppressed, whether via lawfare or imprisonment. It's been the same under the left; fight the left when they were in power, and they activated lawfare, counter terrorism, and imprisonment. It just doesn't work.
"An undocumented El Salvadorian who was given temporary asylum status in the US was mistakenly sent back to El Salvador, his home country, and when the Supreme Court said that the president had to try and get him back so they could give him a trial before deporting him back again to El Salvador the president of El Salvador said that was stupid and didn't give him up."
Wow, you're like Thomas Jefferson, and not an idiot at all.
Only problem with that is INS courts get to decide on that not some judge whose jurisdiction ends at the county line. He is not an authority charged with applying INS laws and rules. That is such an asinine argument.
The judge simply determined no probable cause. Do you support US citizens being detained by the federal government, without cause, under the guise of dubious - and ultimately false - ICE jurisdiction?
You folks simply lust for the gestapo. Bizarre, and obviously unconstitutional. I suppose unsurprising though, for someone whose career undoubtedly bordered such behavior.
@ Zernoff, Your comment omits this fact: INS was officially disbanded on March 1, 2003, and its functions were transferred to three new agencies within the Department of Homeland Security: U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
There are still immigration/naturalization courts and judges whose jurisdiction is those pertinent body of laws whatever agency they now come under. When the appropriate court makes a decision I’ll be good with that. I don’t care if it is called OEIR now. Quit making up more asinine arguments purporting to know what my ultimate motives are. Any illegal can get fake SS cards, operators license and birth certificates. When you get to the bottom of the asinine argument pit, you just keep on digging.
Federal judges do not have jurisdictional limits to various agencies that exist in the executive.
The supreme court recently compelled the trump administration to return illegally deported legal residents to the US? Do they not have jurisdictional authority over the president?
Why is it that you folks have a convenient qualification for every obvious - and adjudicated - civil rights violation from your dear leader? Don't you think that lacks intellectual rigor? Breathlessly support of a politician, without space for criticism, is the behavior of cult, and authoritarian adherents. Until proven otherwise, your lust for federal jackboots is quite evident.
Again, the question was very elementary. Do you support US citizens being detained by the federal government, without cause, under the guise of dubious - and ultimately false - ICE jurisdiction?
You sir are absurd. What was it when Biden spent his entire presidency trying to get Trump arrested? Was that going after your political opponent?
Political violence is on the rise and this is your response? Shapiro's house was just burnt down on Passover. Trump.had two Assassination attempts prior to the election. We need to turn the temperature down.
You are why I am no longer a Democrat after a lifetime of voting blue.
Yes, conservatives are the party of lawfulness, and conciliation. Delusional. Trump practically espouses violence daily.
Biden took no action to politically target trump during his presidency. The same cannot be said for trump, to previous presidents and aides. You're not trafficking in a reality based worldview.
Trump directed his DOJ to indict the former President? When did that happen? Oh wait, that was Garland, under Biden. Don't pretend that you have a 'reality based worldview'. You pick and choose.
Trump talks a lot. But speech is not violence. That's why you have to admit he 'practically espouses violence daily'. It isn't real. Spending 4 years attempting to incarcerate your political opponent is not what Trump did.
If and when this changes, we can discuss the degrees of Trump's violence.
Because Trump is not the only politician to bend/break our rules. When has another former President been gone after like this? I get it, you hate Trump. The precedent set by Biden/Garland is not something to be proud of. It makes the US look like a Banana Republic.
What merits? You have only engaged in promulgating baseless innuendo. Please, be specific with your accusations, and support them with verifiable facts. It's how adults interact.
I am done with you. You have zero interest in engaging with me. You just wish to shout people down. My original response was to someone calling for violence. You have no problem with violence, clearly. And, i have plenty to complain about with every President in my lifetime. Trump is not immune to criticism, but you have no interest in treating others with dignity. Shut up and go away, please. 🤙
That never occurred. It is false, it is a lie no matter how many times you repeat it.
Trump has broken the law with reckless abandon, has been prosecuted federally and by states, and has been found guilty of felonies by a jury of his peers. These are facts, they are immune to your delusion.
Speech can most certainly espouse violence; said speech is not protected. Noone, including trump, has first amendment protections to incitement.
It is not hard to find evidence of the Trump's abrogation of duty to uphold the constitution, US citizens are being extrajudically detained as we speak! You're just a shill, with evidently nonexistent civics understanding.
Yes, you lack the ability to form cogent responses. Your arguments are simply a wandering list of innuendos lacking substance, a reliable fact set, and basis in the law.
Should US citizens be detained without cause - illegally - by the federal government?
Poor Zernoff. Quoting NBC News to “prove” anything is beyond absurd. At this point, it’s obvious to anyone with critical thinking skills that Biden was installed in 2020 using the Covid scam to cook the vote. There is evidence and it will come out. Panicked demrats and the Biden Crime Family “handled” demented Joe and committed treason against America for 4 years! If there’s any justice left in America, the DEEPSTATE UNIPARTY will be exposed and dismantled during the next four years. The DC SWAMP must be drained. Anyone who can’t see the truth is choosing delusion to their own peril.
I agree that many of the legal attacks against Trump were not justified and a serious problem, but I really think you should be more concerned about the detention of people who are legally here who criticize Israel, and about the prospect of deportation to El Salvador without due process. Say what you want about it being just talk, but I am going to be incredibly concerned when the president suggests imprisoning US citizens in a country that will refuse to give them back and has already done the same to a foreign national who was here legally, and is refusing to obey the Supreme Court's order to get him back. Where is the line for you?
@ Zernoff, Brain Dead Joe Biden was not the acting president in the USA during his presidency. A group of people who you did not vote for were acting as president.
Did evil Joyless Reid or lying Rachel Madcow tell you Trump espouses violence daily? I listen to him almost daily and I have never ONCE heard him expouse violence in 10 years! You are a mindcontrolled puppet of despicable Marxist Media paid actors who spew hateful lies and propaganda 24/7. Try actually listening to what President Trump says and what he believes and is trying to do FOR AMERICA! Exactly what do YOU hate about people wanting to make AMERICA GREAT? How old are you? I’m 79 years old and believe me! You have no idea what it was like before evil Marxist infiltration happened in our schools, colleges, politics! People actually respected people who had different beliefs. We weren’t pitted against each other by evil MEDIA! Nobody tried to cram their beliefs down your throat! We agreed to disagree and we’re still good neighbors, co-workers, friends! And it was NOT AMERICA LOVING PATRIOTS who created division and hate! It was outside Marxist/Communist infiltration coming into every area, especially “higher” education and politics! Trump wants to get America back to that! Live and let live! Stay out of endless wars that have one purpose! The rich get richer! Restore the rule of law! Make people accountable! EDUCATE children instead of INDOCTRINATING THEM and turning them against their parents! Expose corruption, fraud, rigged elections! Politicians vote to make their communities better, not to line their pockets with stolen taxpayer dollars! You need to wake up and grow up and take responsibility!
“They legally targeted their political enemies, but because they made legal arguments, it isn’t political targeting”
This kind of argument may help you rationalize why you don’t care when Democrats on your team politically go after their enemies, but it doesn’t work on people who are not in your bubble.
Nope, people break federal laws, and then are prosecuted for their infractions. Trump and his officials broke federal laws, and were prosecuted. There was nothing untoward about the DOJ behavior, and no political targeting whatsoever by garland and Biden. This is how it is supposed to function, outside of the addled brains of reactionary sycophants like yourself.
That you cannot accept the obvious (and successfully prosecuted!) lawlessness and graft of trump and his band of kakistocrats only reflects your cognitive impairment. Keep on fellating your demagogue, I'm sure he cares about you, and not self enrichment.
You understand that in China and Russia, whenever they throw their political enemies in prison, they say they broke the law. “Of course I can throw my enemies in prison because they broke the law” is the #1 justification both they and their supporters use. Using that argument here is not convincing to any sober mind on the matter in the slightest.
Trump was accused of breaking federal laws and wasn’t convicted of any of them. You seem to be mixing that up with the New York prosecution where they turned a misdemeanor for logging an NDA as legal expenses into 34 felony counts because it apparently is a felony in NY to have NDAs when you run for federal office. Something I’m sure NY courts have a record of judiciously prosecuting across the board. You have to be an imbecile to think that is some sort of above-board prosecution.
Or throwing Steve Bannon in prison for refusing to testify to Congress. Something no DOJ has done since the McCarthy era, despite countless instances of officials refusing to testify to congress.
Or judges throwing Trump off the ballot, effectively suspending democracy, because they thought he was guilty of a crime he was never convicted of nor charged with.
Political targeting also go back before Biden. Russiagate was an Obama era spying operation into investigation on the opposition candidate using dubious and false documents produced by opposition research. Blows watergate out of the water.
This doesn’t even get into the broader political targeting. From using the IRS to go after enemies to infiltrating churches to paying foreign organizations to run disinformation campaigns in the US because it would be illegal for intelligence agencies to do it directly.
You are way past delusional. When you say things that you are saying, it shows you are either lying or you are a mind controlled tool. You have zero ZERO credibility. You could have gotten by with making your outlandish claims in 2024. But it’s 2025 and the TRUTH will no longer be denied. Stop making a fool of yourself publicly.
First, I'm not a conservative. I was a lifelong Democrat until last year. Second, supposed criminality does not justify political violence. Third, I hope the Democrat Party is electable again sometime soon. Competition in our democracy matters.
The principles here are actually good, but I think they are expressed in such a way that anyone who isn't already privately thinking "I want the blood of Trumpers to run in the streets" is going to have a very hard time seeing the principles.
I think this is regrettable, because it's actually an important question to ask -- especially in the United States, a country founded on killing the armed forces of a tyrant.
In the abstract, I think your first principle needs to be the one you stated in the middle: "Violence only makes sense as part of coordinated strategy." If you commit violence without an achievable end, it's not rebellion; it's just murder. That means any violence needs to be directed by a well-organized entity that operates, functionally, as a rival government.
In the Colonies, that was the Continental Congress. In the American Civil War, that was the Confederate States of America. (I oppose the CSA completely, but they certainly were capable at coordinating violence to achieve their goals of slavery and disunion.) In the French Revolution, the Third Estate. In various English civil wars, rival claimants to the throne, with rival courts and rival bureaucracies. In the Russian Revolution, the Communist Party was arguably already the most functional government in Russia. (Again, I oppose them, but it worked.)
I don't think the entity *has* to be a government or quasi-government *necessarily*, but, in practice, it nearly always is. What you *do not* want is to create a situation like The Troubles, where there's sporadic murder but no movement toward a resolution, and that's usually what you get from terrorism unsupported by a government or quasi-government.
So if, hypothetically, a tyrant came to power in the United States, the only practical method for opposing it would be through a rival government. In the States, fortunately, those come ready to hand: the states. If a Democrat started acting like a tyrant, you would expect the red states to coordinate the resistance. If a Republican did (as in your hypothetical), you should look to the blue states.
What would induce the blue states to violence? (or the red states, if the hypothetical is reversed?) As I argue in the posts I linked above, the only thing that can truly spark this is legitimacy crisis: first, the federal government must attempt to exercise some authority, enforce some law, or act through some official whose existence is no longer recognized by the rival state governments. Second, that lack of mutual recognition must lead to some conflict between the enforcing agents. For example, suppose agents of the federal government attempted to enforce a tariff that had been enjoined by the federal courts. An importer might refuse to pay the tariff to the federal agent at the port of call, leading to the feds trying to arrest him, leading the importer to call upon state law enforcement agents for protection, leading to an armed standoff between the agents of the state and federal government.
Once the first step has happened, this second step is generally inevitable, but may take months to arrive -- and they may not immediately escalate to civil war. When the war comes, it comes under the authority and at the direction of a real established government, armed with court orders and a taxing power to sustain military operations against the incumbent. After that, the outcome is decided on the field of battle. Whoever wins the war wins the legal dispute, regardless of the merits.
So, generally speaking, the answer to your question, "When must we kill them?" is "When your state government orders you to do so." How that ends up happening is complicated and nightmarishly messy and impossible to guess in advance, but the actual trigger to action is, very helpfully, clear as a bell on a crisp spring day.
Until then, your imperatives are to strengthen and shore up rival institutions (so that they will be capable of serving as well-funded, well-coordinated rival governments if war comes), and to fight the battle to the hilt in courts of law and (to a lesser extent) in legislatures, so that your side has enough *legal* legitimacy to win popular support when your side starts issuing legal orders that contradict the legal orders of the other side.
This is, in many ways, reassuring. The U.S.A. has suffered through *countless* legitimacy crises at both the state and federal levels. Minnesota had a legitimacy crisis *three months ago*, when the State legislature met, but Democrats attempted to deny quorum, and the definition of a quorum was not legally clear, with the result that a body calling itself the Minnesota House convened daily for over a week and purported to conduct the People's Business. That crisis was eventually resolved by the Democrats realizing they were about to lose the court case, so they preemptively surrendered in exchange for minor concessions. *Usually*, the people who take it to the brink realize, before it's too late, that they're screwed.
This is well written but it does omit the foreign influence aspect of legitimacy crises, including the early allegations of British revanchist influence over the early American Republic that contributed to the War of 1812, covert and not so covert support including British shipbuilding for the Confederacy that nearly took Lincoln to war with the UK (when the Tsar sent naval squadrons to New York and San Francisco). And obviously the question of links between late 1800s anarchists and some foreign power, as well as covert Soviet Bloc support for the radical students some of whom coalesced into the SDS / Weathermen, for which Nixon asked Hoover’s FBI to investigate.
At least 2 out of 3 would be assassins of the current POTUS had documented links to Ukraine, and while Donald Trump Jr brings this up in social posts, our legacy media and it appears most of our DOJ and USIC including the FBI appear utterly disinterested if not bent on entirely ignoring this fact.
Without getting into specifics (because I know very little about, e.g., the Trump assassins' financial records), I think we broadly agree here that successful rebellions typically depend on government support -- and, sometimes, at least some of those governments are rival foreign powers hoping to weaken the incumbent government for their own nefarious purposes!
So I accept the friendly codicil: foreign influence plays a huge role in civil wars.
You were fighting a one sided culture war for the last 60 years. You went too far and now your ideas are being discarded and the structures you used to push them across the globe are being annihilated. The lesson you should learn is that you are on the losing side of history. Will you learn it?
You didn’t grow up in the south in 50s, did you? If you had you would know how much everyone preferred segregation. Stop getting your ideas of people history from the rewriters. Open your mind to the beauty that is the truth.
So you're asserting we should resegregate? Are you asserting African Americans are pro resegregation? Shall we exterminate undocumented immigrants too? Extirpate the last 60 years of civil rights legislation?
The last 60 years of civil rights legislation, foisted on America by the immigration lobby amongst other sorathic evils, has brought this nation to the verge of collapse. Diversity is our weakness. There are 141 other natively black and brown nations. Why not revel in and celebrate those alone without exterminating the remaining white and yellow ones?
This is pretty ironic coming from someone who's pretending to be a black dude online lmao. If you try pretending to be a black woman you might like it even better! I wonder how long you can avoid being introspective about this. I'm going to ignore any bait to try to prove you're a black dude because you already know you're a white guy and I'm not talking to anyone else.
My thoughts exactly. Furthermore, I'd be interested in his actual access to weapons.
I'm an ex infantryman. I'm old now, but still armed and dangerous. I'd welcome the opportunity go up against this poofter and his pencil necked, needle dick mates, and I'd whistle while I worked.
"if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process; if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, and jail its political adversarie" so, everything the regime has been doing or trying to do in the last 5 years? So people should have resorted to violence then?
Where is the evidence of 2020 fraud? Where is the evidence of politically sponsored mass violence by democrats to our institutions and representatives? Who did Biden illegally detain? What speech was suppressed by the federal government? Please, be specific.
In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
Here: In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
This is an excellent example of a left-wing temper tantrum. I am always amazed at the hypocrisy they so readily indulge themselves in when things aren't going their way.
"it has arbitrarily imprisoned its opponents"--were you as concerned about the overly zealous manner the last administration arbitrarily jailed citizens and held them for years?
"imposed taxes upon us without our consent"--were you as concerned when Obamacare was foisted on us? It passed SCOTUS, ostensibly by considering tax laws.
"Its leader has threatened those who produce unfavorable coverage"--were you as concerned when the IRS was weaponized against Tea Party organizations? Did you encourage (or at least allow) covid and vaccination skeptics or approve their silencing?
"and threatens to alter fundamentally our form of government"--were you as concerned when Chairman Zero announced such a fundamental transformation? Did you speak up about the numerous excesses committed by federal, state, and local governments during the pandemic?
"It has pardoned its thugs" were you as outraged over the release of BLM thugs? Did you even raise an eyebrow over the 8000+ "pardons" that were "signed" by the last president, including the one for his convicted felon son (that assured us on multiple occasions he wouldn't sign, by the way)?
You know, four years ago, the sort of violent rhetoric you have written here, you would have condemned as "insurrectionism," in the hopes of making even more of your own ideological opponents susceptible to imprisonment.
And by what means of "violence" are you prescribing? Your side has long dismissed gun ownership as being uncivilized, outdated, and/or unnecessary, the domain of undereducated backwoods types.
This is what your side used to call a "teachable moment," taking this season of the shoe being on the other foot and at least attempt to see that perhaps non-leftists had their own legitimate grievances and reactions--though with less violence overall (contrast J6 and the Covid protests with the BLM riots, and the Tea Party Rallies with Occupy)--and try to exercise that empathy and "enlightenment" the Left claimed at one time to be so famous for.
But, this sort of rant demonstrates your side prefers barbarism.
I guess you missed how my comment quoted Nicholas on several occasions. I think your issue is that instead of uncritically jumping on the bandwagon, I evaluated it according to how I've seen the Left handle itself in many of those very same issues.
That helps determine your moral standing on such. Cries of "whataboutism" are often weak excuses to avoid addressing your own hypocrisy (and by "you" I'm speaking generally, not necessarily you, specifically). If you leave these problems within your own camp unattended, you're just furthering its internal rot, and you lose whatever moral standing you're trying to build your case on and future ones down the road.
The call to violence certainly doesn't help matters at all.
That's all fine, and I think you are articulating some interesting points that I would probably read more about in a longer form.
But you're not engaging with the actual substance of Nicholas's writing. You are quoting it, yes, but in service of a discussion about something external (whether that's his/the broader left's consistency on certain issues or the validity of their moral position, imagined or otherwise).
So again, I invite you to critically engage with the writing, with the words that are written. Not what you think he should have written, or what he could have written, but with what he did.
Why do you interpret his essay as a call for violence?
And in answering that question, I would ask you to consider whether you believe the 2nd Amendment is a call to violence.
I did engage them critically. My entire comment was a critical analysis of his rant. If it wasn't to your satisfaction, well, you can't please everyone.
With a title like "When Must We Kill Them," how can you not see it as a call to violence? Are you really that obtuse? The bulk of the body of the essay is an attempt to demonize others--which is often used to pave the way for violence.
Thing of it is, and again I'm having to repeat the thesis of my comment, the author is using examples and attitudes that the left has supported over the years. Sadly, some will persist with complaints about "whataboutism" in the interests of ignoring their own glass houses.
2A isn't a call to violence so much as keeping government from having a monopoly on such, "Security of a Free State," being the key phrase to understanding that.
How is jailing people for January 6th "arbitrary"? Did they not get a trial? Were their prisons not in the united states?
How does your argument of "shoe being on the other foot" make any sense, in either a historical sense or recent sense? The left have never really had power in the U.S. No matter how you spin it, Biden was no lefty. Neither was Obama. Being Black does not make you a lefty. Not being a member of the GOP or MAGA does not make you a lefty. So point out to me a lefty president.
As for the left being violent, well it wasn't the left that opened fire on Fort Sumter. It wasn't the left that created Jim Crow laws. It wasn't the left that wrote the Smoot-Hawley tariffs, or shot on university students at Kent. The left didn't hang young Black men from trees or burn crosses on people's front lawns. The left didn't walk Indigenous people off their lands. The left weren't members of the KKK, the left weren't members of the U.S. Nazi Party. The left aren't friends of Putin, the left didn't blow up a state building in Oklahoma. The left didn't write the Patriot Act, the left didn't invade Iraq (twice!). The left didn't call Mexicans rapists, or Canada a drug den. The left didn't run over Heather Heyer. The left didn't storm the capitol building on January 6th. The left didn't put their knee on George Floyd or beat Rodney King. No, your boogeyman didn't do a lot of violence in the history of your country.
The shoe has belonged to the right for a looooong time, bud. But sure, keeping safe so other people didn't get sick with Covid which killed millions around the world is the greatest injustice known to mankind.
I must have missed gym the day we all got selected for sides. I guess if you're responsible for answering for everything "your side" has been accused of doing, why did your side bomb the Murrah building if you're so against violence?
For "everything" "my side" has been "accused" of doing, was something that happened in 1995 the most recent you could find?
Was McVeigh supported by any Republican senator, or his actions excused by any of them--say, like Harris did for BLM rioters? How does he qualify for being on "my side," if, in fact, you know what that is?
I do, however, appreciate your acknowledging my position against violence. Can you say the same for yourself? And if so, why are you defending this call to violence?
It's honestly hard to believe that you're this incapable of thinking critically. The very logic you object to in my post is logic you employ consistently in your own life. You identify your interlocutor with views and persons they may not necessarily support, and then argue against this fictive colossus you've invented. You'd sooner tie yourself up in knots to make this about Harris and BLM (for some reason??? lol) than dispute the premise, because if you started treating people and their ideas individually instead of lumping them together and asking that people address *everything ever done by someone you disagree with*, it would be much harder for you to defend your ideas. That's why your original post is 100% whataboutism. You're an unserious person with little to say
Meanwhile, I am dismayed, although not surprised, you cannot support your arguments. Still nothing about McVeigh? If you knew so little about him, why did you try to use him as an example of what "my side" allegedly perpetrates?
You complain about whataboutism, but seem to have no problems trying to leverage it yourself. That's the sort of hypocrisy my comment was about. It is disappointing to see how your "critical thinking" skills failed to pick up on that.
Shh, the left are losing their cheap immigrant slave labor here, and the cheap slave labor abroad, is it any wonder that they are trying to start another civil war? Crockett says the left doesn't want to farm and looking at Hogg, I suspect they would be happy to let big brother take care of all the liberals in the Democratic Party. Except, there is no such thing as a free lunch...
" In late 2002, four illegal Mexicans brutally abducted and gang-raped a 42-year-old mother of two near a railroad in Queens, New York. Three of these illegal rapists had been arrested numerous times for assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession. But pursuant to New York's sanctuary policy, the police had never notified the INS." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg20528/html/CHRG-109hhrg20528.htm
"In Los Angeles, 5 months ago, Carlos Barrera, an illegal Mexican, mugged three people, burglarized two apartments, and attempted to rape a 5-year-old girl. He had been deported 4
years ago for crimes of violence but, of course, had reentered. Since his reentry, he had been stopped twice for traffic violations. But, again, the cops never notified ICE because of
"In September, 2003, the Miami police arrested a Honduran visa violator for seven vicious rapes. The previous year, Miami cops had had the suspect in custody for lewd and lascivious molestation. Pursuant to Miami's sanctuary law, however, the police had never checked his
been following you for a while but unsubscribed from you bc of this. you intentionally wrote this in a hyperbolic way to gain attention & enrage people. this is destructive, short-sighted, profoundly uninteresting, and most of all dumb.
For everyone else reading this later, Nicholas was visited by the secret service today and now his life is ruined. Nicholas is a prime example of the dangerous pattern that is befalling our young men - Nick is on the spectrum, impressionable, very desperate for acceptance and admiration, and very online. He is a very small, skinny kid with a kind face and would never say something like this in person yet here he is putting out a massive call for violence seen by a million people. As a result he's completely ruined his entire life and he isn't even old enough to drink yet.
He likely does not fully understand the ramifications of what happened today and how they will follow him around for life, but what happened two days ago is going to haunt him for decades. All because eager activists, grifters, and trolls pray on people like Nick and gas him up into sacrificing themselves for the metaphorical meat grinder to further the hatred and division in this world.
What makes you say his life is ruined? Do you have some inside knowledge, or do you just equate 'visited by secret service due to online writings' with 'life is ruined'?
How exactly is your Straw Man Fallacy supposed to "wake us up"?
As for your "I meant to shock" comment: Reactive Abuse: How the Narcissist Deliberately Pushes Your Buttons. "Toxic people will push you to breaking point with relentless emotional, psychological and verbal abuse. Their goal is to get you to snap so that they can prove how “unhinged” you are."
Come the revolution, who in the hell actually are going to be your fav class of door kicking trigger pullers Poindexter Decker? Some world war woke spun up veterans?
Because all I see thus far among the would be John Hinckleys are MK Ultra lite wind up toys, 2 out of 3 including the most recently arrested suspect who murdered his parents in Wisconsin with curious ties to Ukraine. Why it’s almost as if some of you think the ones the Russians don’t turn into fertilizer are going to be your Hessians.
But hey CNN gave Hinckley a nice interview after he was released from federal
You worthless faggot losers aren't going to kill anyone except yourselves
Stay triggered lol
I'd say calling for violence because you lost an election to some doing exactly what he promised is the definition of 'TRIGGERED' lol
This has nothing to do with losing the election you moron.
The author wrote a Straw Man Fallacy. Trump won, Harris lost because she was a nincompoop.
Have you looked around lately?it's not about the fucking election
It actually does. Calling violence against those who were democratically elected undermines the democracy that such callers claim they proudly support.
I can think of some other notable leaders who were democratically elected, only to erode those systems to secure a permanent grasp on power and use it for monstrous things.
I didn't like the outcome of the election, but, accusations of voter suppression aside, it was thrown away by the Dems as much as it was won by Trump, so there wasn't much to contest.
The election didn't inspire anyone to start writing essays like this - or if it did, no one gave them the time of day. It's what's been done in the months since that has people lighting torches & sharpening their pitchforks.
I don't really expect this reply to change your mind. But give it time - the way things are going in DC, it'll end up hurting you too. And that might.
Then you and your side do not believe in democracy. Stop pretending you do; it would be wonderful if you can admit that your form of ideal government is something else.
Nothing the Trump administration has done in the past few months warrants any assassinations. To believe otherwise makes you delusional and evil.
Shame on everyone who liked your comment. If anyone else wants to refute Inactivist, please do so.
Nazi, Nazi, Nazi
Trump lost
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=tCY8LvPONlsWtZoS
Without human rights there is no democracy. Tying your own hands in a fight for democracy means losing.
bro forgot the jan. 4 riot in DC, when republican crazies actually stormed the capitol
Yours is a Red Herring Fallacy. This blog is about the author writing a Straw Man Fallacy and poorly disguised passive/aggressive rant titled: When Must We Kill Them?" Try to stay on topic. ADHD?
Trump lost
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=tCY8LvPONlsWtZoS
Don't be a poor loser. Trump is your president.
We have the same discussion in Germany with the AfD.
They are NOT democrats. They use Democrazy to uninstall it.
They have been democratively elected, true, but they are NOT Demokrats. They USE Democrazy.
They are toxic.
The AFD would be considered Center-Right in the USA.
The AfD is going to be the governing party one day. The more you commies suppress them, the more powerful they will become.
You do not believe in democracy.
This has nothing to do with losing the election you moron.
It certainly does you moron.
It obviously does not retard.
Trump won, don't be a sore loser Travis.
of course there's an entire article explaining the authors thought process and you say its about losing an election. Are you an idiot or troll - can only be 1?
The only idiot and troll is you.
The idea of killing democratically elected officials makes the election very relevant.
Your typo ridden comment indicates a poor education or intellectual laziness. The author wrote a Straw Man Fallacy, quote: "If the present administration should cancel elections; if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process; if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, and jail its political adversaries; if it ignores the will of Congress; if it should directly spurn the orders of the court; all these are reasons for revolution." Prove me wrong!
This has nothing to do with losing the election you moron.
It has to do with falsely equivalency of comparing violent illegals being detained and sent to prisons in their home countries and that of US citizens somehow being deprived of their rights. One is not the other and it will not leaf to the other. All the other fears mentioned like censoring political opponents, prosecuting and imprisoning political opponents, targeting dissident media etc this has all already been done by the left. You fools set the standard, because you're so brainwashed that you believe your opponents are fascists or racists or whatever buzz word which has became the left wing stand in for evil, or dehumanized, and as such justifies all action against. We'll every time you push you get an equal opposite reaction, so hold on tight.
I'm going to guess you probably don't really care about accuracy, but the people being abducted (not deported, deportation is a legal process which is not being followed here) are not being sent to their home countries. They are being sent to a third party gulag in El Salvador. If you want to mass deport people who are here illegally, that has its own set of problems and I obviously don't agree with it but at least that would have a legal process. What's being done is not legal, and it leads to the exact problems we've seen in that there's no way to know if the people being confined are actually guilty of anything. There is no due process being done, and by the administrations own admission they have obtained some people by mistake and then simply decided oh well it doesn't matter if they were legal, they're brown so into the gulag they go. And if you want to follow that to its logical conclusion, Trump himself has said he wants to find a way to do the same to US citizens. And if you're ok with that, well, I don't really know what to say. But I have a feeling that of Joe Biden had been sending the Proud Boys to foreign internment camps that you'd be screaming bloody murder.
Here's the issue. The left had zero problems with mass importing these people, yet you demand exhaustive due process to remove the exact same people. Everything the left does get hand waved through, and when the right try to reverse you the left drags its heels.
There's no abduction in taking illegal aliens and sending them back to their country. Each deportation is the result of an investigation that has declared the individual illegal, and it has nothing to do with looking at skin color. That's a lie, and to say there is no process is also outright false.
Your proposal would take decades if not centuries to get it all done. Why get in the country legally when you can just cross the border and never worry about going to court while you're alive? Quit being so ridiculous.
Take your gaslighting and stick it where the sun don’t shine, you social Marxist pond scum. All people who are in this country illegally are criminals and not citizens of the US. Those two factors eliminate a “legal process” as you call it. GFY
Still looking for some purpose in your life, eh, lefty?
You not understanding the laws of the United States does not make your comment seem "smart".
In some cases, a noncitizen is subject to expedited removal without being able to attend a hearing in immigration court. Expedited removal may happen when a noncitizen:
Comes to the U.S. without proper travel documents
Uses forged travel documents
Does not comply with their visa or other entry document requirements.
Your Proud Boy Non Sequitur Fallacy is sophomoric and ridiculous!
I would say before you decide your choice to bring violent action on someone, you better be damn sure your information is accurate.
For example, what if people had decided to bring violent action against those who chose not to get vaccinated?
Maybe people were seriously injured or killed.
Then you find out that prevailing narrative was not only wrong, the government KNEW it was wrong but allowed the false narrative to perpetuate and spread to accomplish their goals. IOW. You were used.
Read upon Color Revolution our own government used in foreign countries to change leadership to their preferred candidate.
Maybe you are ok with that. Lies? Sure, you say, but if it accomplishes the goal of cutting off Hydra’s head, so be it, right?
Problem is, it never works in the long run. So make sure before you lift your rod against your fellow citizens, read from and talk to people who disagree with you.
If you believe everything, you'll fall for anything.
Skepticism is a virtue.
I love this because it looks like you're really stupid enough to believe the Covid vaccine conspiracies you've been sucking on 🤣🤣
Keep on sucking em buddy.
> all the other fears like censoring political… already done by the left
“BoTh SiDeS” nonsense again.
Go ahead and help me understand the lefts equivalent. Fascism is about patterns, degrees, and accumulation over time and not about singular actions. It’s like a checklist, but one where how often and how deeply the boxes are checked matters most.
Trump has been at it for years and has accumulated more than any person you can point to by a long shot
1. Undermining electoral integrity
2. Incitement of political violence
3. Attacks on the press
4. Use of dehumanizing language
5. Admiration for authoritarian leaders
6. Suppression of dissent
7. Nationalist and xenophobic policies
8. Disregard for legal norms
9. Cult of personality
10. Erosion of democratic institutions
11. Undermining authority of courts
> You fools set the standard,
The only fools are those blind to who Trump is and run constant defense, obfuscate, and justify the actions of the shiftiest and most corrupt, inept, pathological lying President in history.
The only thing that can save you is a lobotomy.
Buddy, your party lost in 1945 and they'll lose again. It's just a matter of time.
Well stated Gray Skull!
Funny how the comment you’re replying to has reasoned arguments and analysis and all you responded with is a gay anecdote and a bunch of tired insults. “Racist redneck!” That’s all you have, and it doesn’t work when it comes from a bunch of satanic fucking pedophiles like you, you dickless, low-t worm. Fuck you and your wife, cuck.
You may find it difficult to prove your claim, quote: "This has nothing to do with losing the election you moron." Why? Because proving a negative involves inductive reasoning, which is based on probabilities rather than certainty.
The positive is that the best man, Trump, won the election. Harris lost because she is incompetent. Ask yourself this question: would the author have written this Straw Man Fallacy with the homicidal title "When Must We Kill Them?" if nincompoop Harris was elected?
So. Your stance is that winning an election means the rule of law no longer applies. An elected official can do anything they want? regardless of constitutionality?
No sweetie- when Nazis try to take away your rights, you kill them. Period.
one day you will learn to read, i agree
Trump lost, you cult following imbecile.
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=tCY8LvPONlsWtZoS
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
Greg Palast...... there is a name I haven't seen in a while...... but fitting that you cited Palast who openly celebrated Ronald Reagan's death. You people are sick.
Is this comment about 2024 or 2020?
2024 See Thom Hartmann or other podcasts that detail the work of Glen Palast
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=tCY8LvPONlsWtZoS
You're the ones who lost an election and are now crying about it.
As if trump supporters weren’t crying about it for literally 4 years
When Trump supporters call for the assassination of democrats, then we can discuss things.
I don't want to hear ONE MORE FREAKING word about 'January 6th' or 'Protecting our 'democracy.'
You have no leg on which to stand.
You all are pathetic.
Are you serious? “Tell me about a time trump supporters wanted to assassinate someone APART FROM the time they stormed the capitol with the intention of assassinating democrats”.
Please read. Closely. I said, "When-then."
And show me one instance in which an 'assassination of democrats' was attempted within the last two decades. On January 6th or at any other time.
A deranged Lefty nutcase shot up a gathering of Republican legislators as they practiced for a charity baseball game, leaving at least one of them damaged for life with continual and perpetual rehabilitation and therapy in front of him
US Senator Schumer loudly and proudly threatened US Supreme Court justices by name as he stood on the steps of the US Supreme Court, cheered on by a whistle blowing, drum beating, slogan chanting, angry mob.
A deranged Lefty nutcase who believed that he was a female shot up a Christian school in Nashville Tennessee, killing many people just because they were Christians. No other reason was given in his far ranging and unhinged manifesto. This unhinged, gender, dysphoric nutcase displayed the sort of delusional thinking that has the full throated and total support of Tim Walz , who is the miserably failed 2024 Democrat vice presidential candidate and current Minnesota governor. Without provocation, Lefty Walz described himself as a knucklehead and a train wreck.
A deranged Lefty nutcase shot the tip of President Trump’s ear off at a crowded political rally in Pennsylvania. One of his murderous rounds managed to kill a firefighter who was a father and husband. He wounded many others.
A deranged Lefty nutcase is now a Lefty folk hero after he travelled to New York City (which has been controlled by Democrats for decades) and committed cold-blooded murder by shooting an insurance CEO in the back multiple times, leaving three young girls without their father.
A deranged Lefty nutcase killed his family in Wisconsin, then lived with their rotting corpses for several weeks as he marinated in his own hatred, developing his plan to facilitate a Lefty international agenda of chaos and disruption. Then he headed out to kill President Trump and Vice President Vance and start a Lefty revolution in the USA.
And now a deranged Lefty nutcase, who is an antisemite, pro-Palestinian terrorist, and an angry and agitated activist for Lefty causes, attempted to set Pennsylvania governor Shapiro‘s house on fire while the house was occupied by many men, women, and children as they celebrated Passover.
Around our nation, and also around the world, many Lefty nutcases were utilizing the Lefty anarchist’s favorite DIY weapon( Molotov cocktail) , as they smashed and set ablaze privately owned Teslas, destroyed Tesla dealerships, and defaced Tesla vehicles with hate-filled graffiti and the universal symbol of universal evil; the swastika.
But please, tell us again about Jan 6 and the threat to “our democracy”.
Y'all are pathetic. Just. Pathetic.
Y'all need to check yourselves. Whether it's inwardly, or to the nearest mental hospital. Y'all are downright deranged and a threat to society.
ROFL If they intended to assassinate democrats, democrats would have been assassinated...
You';re not a serious person.
David DePape attacked Paul Pelosi and planned to kidnap nancy pelosi. He was a trump supporter.
The racist bunch of gun loving rednecks stormed the capital intent to assassinate democrats... but forgot their guns. Yeah right.
David DePape
They didn’t even have guns inside of the capital you idiot
But they never did
and if they did theyd have done it
you freaks cant fight your way out a paper bag
The difference is Trump took office after actually winning an election
Like Biden did in 2020? Are you still crying about this?
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Biden did not win the 2020 election. He won the 2021 selection.
The fact is we are pretty evenly divided and Trump did NOT win by any crazy large amount of votes. We all just need to calm down a bit, lick our wounds and fight with better, more well educated opponents. I voted for better choices. Not a FELON and a aging senior that I don't think had all his mental faculties.
Trump won decisively and by several million votes. That's not a small amount.
You're deceived. Wake up.
Shoot yourself and fucking die
Cry harder, lefty. Maybe your parents will start to love you.
You commies have a right to cry about and question an election. Fine. You don't have the right to call for or participate in or cheerlead violence against your political enemies.
They not only lost it. They gave the win to DT because they ignored a d refused to reign in the extremes of their side. The haters re-elected DT, that simple kids.
People like you don't deserve to be alive. The world would be significantly better if you weren't in it
Trump lost
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=tCY8LvPONlsWtZoS
Trump lost
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=tCY8LvPONlsWtZoS
I'd say calling for violence because you lost an election to some doing exactly what he promised is the definition of 'TRIGGERED' lol
I'd say calling for violence because you lost an election to some doing exactly what he promised is the definition of 'TRIGGERED' lol
It’s not “triggered” to point out that the professional managerial class utterly dependent on a state monopoly on violence is totally incapable of any physical force. You aren’t scary on your own, the federal thugs you send to kick people’s doors in are.
ahhahaahh baited left terrorists suicidal waiting to die
we'll disappear you terrorists dont worry
This is real “scrawled on a rest stop urinal” energy.
That's what the British said before 1775.
You live in Germany
Yeah, and?
And you're a worthless, nationless parasite, nothing like the English and Scotts-Irish who fought the revolution.
You're just a five and dime store Nazi.
My point stands, old man. Good luck with your "revolution." You and I both know you're on the sidelines.
Well aren't you charming
He's just a kid, barely out of his parents household. His writing is inflammatory, no doubt intended to attract attention. It worked. He appears to be a narcissist but maybe not. Just a kid.
It worked a little too well. Nicholas was visited by the Secret Service earlier tonight and now his life is ruined. Yet another lonely kid on the spectrum, desperate for admiration, radicalized by terminally online grifters and activists into doing something he never would have done otherwise. It's extremely sad.
He likely won't be able to really comprehend the consequences of what happened today for some time. Kid isn't even old enough to drink yet.
Well, that "just a kid" did it to himself. He played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
I for one applaud Nicholas' bravery and his willingness to state what needs to be said. It was only 5 years ago that MAGA tried a coup, and now their criminal Cult-leader pardons his convicted Seditionist foot-soldiers, his administration bypasses Congress and the Courts, invokes the Alien and Sedition acts to send those convicted of no crime to extrajudicial prisons, silencing political dissidents, all of this qualifies as Treason against the United States. And Treason is punishable by Death.
ILLEGAL ALIENS RIGHTFULLY REMOVED FROM THIS COUNTRY. THEY HAD NO LEGAL RIGHT TO BE IN IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEY ARE NOT INNOCENT. THEY ARE INVADERS.
The Supreme Court ordered Trump to stop. He is not deporting people, he is kidnapping them and human trafficking them. Trump now musing about sending U.S. Citizens to El Salvador.
It becomes clearer every day that MAGA is an existential threat to America. I would take up arms against MAGA before I ever turned against migrants. Eventually it will become necessary to fight your Demonic cult with more than just words.
He is not a kid. He is doing doctorte work. Far old enough to know better. Showing his indoctrinate hate.
This “kid” is disturbed. This “article” is the tip of the iceberg. Want to know what else he supports? Pedophiles and allowing children access to pornography. But go ahead, keep defending the indefensible
"Just a kid"...like the nitwit who shot off part of DT's ear last summer.
He's a baby psychopath. 'When should we kill them?' Seriously?
Or a psychopath.
Relax Tom. We'll only shoot you in your legs
with birdshot...
Comments like these are exactly the reason why articles like this are written.
Articles like this is exactly the reason for the comments.
J6 anti national retards.
The "J6 anti national retards" don't call for violence against elected politicians, you dummy. That comes from your side. In that case, it really is better for you to be gone than to commit such a crime.
God have mercy on your soul.
That mob was out for blood. For chrissakes they constructed a goddam GALLOWS.
You don't know who made the gallows.
If the J6 crowd was out for blood, then they would have had it.
Clearly, they weren't. They killed no one. It wasn't "3%" violent, and therefore peaceful -- which is the official reigning narrative defending the BLM riots. It wasn't 1% violent.
All J6ers should have been gunned down. I hope Trump's pardon list becomes a hit-list, and these traitors are found and rooted out of their homes, and executed on the spot. Ashley Babbitt wasn't enough. MAGA must face more punishment.
Bullshit lies
You didn't see the photos of the "hang Mike Pence" gallows?
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/02/1068891351/january-6-insurrection-capitol-attack-trump-anniversary
Even your kids if they haven't dropped dead like flies of measles already.
You're still dead, man.
Weird I don’t feel dead
Die cockroach
Isn’t the entire conservative identity built around protecting freedom from tyranny😭 yall wanted to lynch Obama so bad but now Trump is disappearing American citizens and yall are just lining up to suck his cock. So crazy
Your mother probably regrets that she didn’t swallow you.
His mother isn't the one calling for violence against elected politicians, you dummy. That comes from your side. In that case, it really is better for you to be gone than to commit such a crime.
God have mercy on your soul.
Lord have mercy on MAGA, followers of an Anti-Christ destined for an eternity of merciless torment, for their Treason against America and betrayal of God. The suffering they have caused in this life will be repaid to them ten-fold in the afterlife.
A Luigi style slaughter of fascist incel cucks.🔫
Says the moron who can't even *define* fascism and thinks it means "everyone I hate".
You dumb fuck.
The "fascist incel cucks" (whoever they are) aren't calling for violence against elected politicians, you dummy. That comes from your side. In that case, it really is better for you to be gone than to commit such a crime.
God have mercy on your soul.
Redditors are known for lighting themselves on fire
You seem upset, boo.
looks like you're first on the list
And there you have it. The left-wing political manifesto. “When we lose an election we must assassinate the winners and those who vote for them.”
And fuckheads like this screech about white supremacy. Give me a fucking break. Democrats are the party of violence and hate.
The right wing manifesto couldn’t exist because there aren’t enough literate people on that side to make sense of it. Nowhere here did the author say that we should kill people because the left lost an election. He’s saying an executive flagrantly defying court orders and grabbing more and more power for itself is a threat to liberty and it’s important to treat it as such. If you disagree with that premise you disagree with the author of the Declaration of Independence, which is your own problem.
The author of the Declaration of Independence was a rapist and a slave owner. And even worse: a white male. As a good leftist, surely you agree we should ignore everything he said, correct?
One of the most entertaining parts of reading Trump sycophants responding to any statement I make is their complete projection of their simplistic understanding of everything on to me. I am not a leftist and identify not at all with any leftist movement, but for you, the bare fact that I am willing to criticize Trump, calling a spade a spade, is enough for your brain to conclude that I must be a blue haired demon ready to nuke the country to perform land acknowledgments. Next time at least try to address the argument before hallucinating in your reply.
I’m not a Trump supporter 😁
Sure, you just have the compulsive need to accuse a person critical of Trump of being a white hating leftist who wants to ignore the slave-owning rapist Thomas Jefferson, the typical behavior of politically neutral observers.
I never said you were “white hating.”
I am a Trump voter! Happy MAGA Spring everyone!
I am a Trump voter! MAGA 2025 baby!
You are a clown though.
Jefferson was not a rapist lmao
he had children with his slave. can never tell whether people like you are in childish denial or you're just willfully lying to make it seem like having sex with someone you own in chattel slavery actually isn't that bad
No he didn’t. The Sally Hemings fantasy was debunked decades ago
you are truly evil
christ you're stupid
That's funny, there were enough literate people to vote for Trump for him to win the electoral college *and* the popular vote.
Cry harder, leftoid. It just makes normal people hate you even more.
You don’t have to be literate to vote. You would know that if you were literate but you seem to struggle with english more generally.
I see literally nothing wrong with his spelling, grammar or punctuation. So your accusation of sub-literacy is as empirically fantastical as your side's constant ad hominem accusations of racism, sexism and "fascism".
I was calling him stupid because his response to me calling rightoids illiterate was “well Trump won the election,” to which the obvious response is, “those two things aren’t connected in any way.” Maybe if you were literate you would have picked up on that.
Lol you say you're not a leftist but then you totally out yourself as a leftist by using leftist terminology. Really? You're not a leftist using terms like "rightoids"? The only people I've ever seen using that are leftists. So nice try at attempting to hide your affiliation, but you just shot yourself in the foot.
And exactly how many illiterate people do you think voted? How were they able to vote, and know to choose Trump if they were illiterate?
Ah you meant “literally” illiterate…
Being able to write (or use AI to write lol) a comment at approximately the level of a C+ high schooler does not make you literate.
Also, "english" should be capitalized in your comment.
Literacy tests are actually not allowed in America. Illiterate morons can vote. And I'm all for that, however they also get to suffer the consequences.
“The right wing manifesto couldn’t exist because there aren’t enough literate people on that side to make sense of it.”
The level of clueless arrogance to be able to make this statement is just off the charts.
Even for a leftist…
Still not a lefist, and it’s more derisive hyperbole than clueless arrogance. Ultimately a majority of Americans are functionally illiterate because they struggle to sit and read anything longer than a tweet, but it is still a statement I would generally stand by. Genuine engagement with ideas is negatively correlated with support for Trump, the archon of conservatism in America today. And when I say archon I mean it in both the literal Greek meaning of ruler as well as the Gnostic idea of the archons of the seven planets that prevent souls from leaving the material realm. Trump and Trumpism is a mental ailment that traps its followers from critical thought.
By parroting the author's Straw Man Fallacy, your comment indicates you are also ignorant of Civics 101. The Executive branch, led by the President, enforces laws, spends money as authorized by Congress, and can declare states of emergency.
The Straw Man: "executive flagrantly defying court orders". The Executive Branch ENFORCES Federal laws.
Local courts, state courts deal with state law like traffic violations, misdemeanors, disputes, local matters, etc.
Federal courts primarily handle cases involving federal laws and the Constitution.
Example; deporting illegal aliens is enforcing federal law, not state law. You should have learned this in basic civics class.
By parroting the author's Straw Man Fallacy, your comment indicates you are also ignorant of Civics 101. The Executive branch, led by the President, enforces laws, spends money as authorized by Congress, and can declare states of emergency.
The Straw Man: "executive flagrantly defying court orders". The Executive Branch ENFORCES Federal laws.
Local courts, state courts deal with state law like traffic violations, misdemeanors, disputes, local matters, etc.
Federal courts primarily handle cases involving federal laws and the Constitution.
Example; deporting illegal aliens is enforcing federal law, not state law. You should have learned this in basic civics class.
Meanwhile a white supremacist just shot up a school in Florida a couple days ago. We wouldn’t be so addicted to “screeching” about it if want white supremacist psychos weren’t addicted to mass killing
Did you see that the “white supremacist” was actually a staunch left wing militant? Hmmm? Did you see that part? He has wanted to assassinate Trump for months.
While you’re at it, look up the black punk who shot up the school in Dallas. I bet you missed that news since it doesn’t support your narrative.
You’re outclassed in this discussion. Go back to your TikTok videos. And remember, men can’t get pregnant. You freak.
Did you just decide to only make statements pulled directly from your ass? The publicly available statements on the opinions of Phoenix Ikner come from his classmates who say that, allegedly, Ikner said blacks were ruining his neighborhood and Rosa Parks was in the wrong. Either provide a source connecting him to the “militant left” or shut up: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/04/17/who-florida-shooter-suspect/83146360007/
Tell you what, Parker. Tell me about the Dallas school shooter. Since he’s black, he doesn’t fit your narrative. But go ahead and stretch your brain a bit and pull up the details on the Dallas school shooter. I bet your woke ass didn’t even know a black punk shot up a school in Dallas. Oh, and tell me about all the violent tranny freaks that are burning down Tesla dealerships. Or the violent woke freaks who attack Tesla drivers. Or the Hamastitutes who attack Jewish students on university campuses. Or how about the professors who attack students because they wear red hats? But, yeah, go ahead and freak out about “white supremacy” or whatever your panties are twisted on. You tranny groomers are hilarious.
So no evidence about Phoenix Ikner being a leftie? I have no reason to deny things if they are appropriately reported, but you seem fine pulling whatever out of your ass and then pivoting to your dialogue tree when cornered with contrary evidence. Someone else brought up FSU, you said something wrong, I told you that you were wrong, you drool on your keyboard over “trannies.” Wanna acknowledge you were talking out of your ass?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxPW0EXgAA7WtQ?format=jpg&name=large
Yep, definitely right wing.
That’s certainly one way to admit that you were confidently wrong!
This Phoenix Ikner?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxPW0EXgAA7WtQ?format=jpg&name=large
Hm.
Yes, because white supremacists are famously associated with the left.
I'm being sarcastic, if you didn't pick up on that
True. Detecting sarcasm is probably impossible for people who drool and are retarded. Get well soon
The shooter was a diehard MAGA man you ignorant schmuck.
Cool story. Now do the Tesla Dealer firebombers and the arsonist at the PA Governor’s mansion. Oh, and don’t forget the Hamas crowd who attacks Jewish students at universities. Get back to me when you do your homework. And remember, men can’t get pregnant.
Why? That's assuming the Tesla bomber did something wrong or that Israel is right to cannibalize children, or that Donald Trump is actually a legitimate leader of our country.
And there you have it. A deranged ANTIFA tranny groomer who can’t do two pushups. Keep it classy, tranny groomer pedo.
Pull more bullshit from your ass. This freak was likely one of your followers.
He was one of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point Nazis. And anyone with a lick of sense would want what he was trying to do “for months”.
Erica you need to calm down. I know you spend your days with your panties twisted on how to groom children ideology, but clearly you are deranged. Feminism hasn’t been good to you. Stop wearing masks. And remember, men can’t get pregnant. And men don’t belong in women’s sports. Men don’t have a cock and balls. You feminist boomer loser.
Silly MAGAt, thinking's for people.
You should learn the words to the chorus from M.A.S.H. and live them.
@Erica Ramey,
What type of "thinking" is it when you call people who do not agree with you "MAGAt"? Most people grew out of this bullying behavior in jr. high. When this behavior is continued into adulthood, it is an indication of narcissistic gaslighting.
What type of "thinking" is it and what exactly do you mean by your MASH chorus comment?
Ouch ... If he were to do that it would be defeating the purpose with him coming to no intelligent conclusion about anything. He would spend his last breath drowning in his current madness. All we need is to win the day and show him what real sense and sanity and intelligence are and for him to live in that world for the rest of his days, and MAYBE, before the end, he might just begin to understand how he's been duped his whole life.
🙄
These are the tactics Mao used: kill those who oppose you and blame others for what you yourself are actually doing.
“For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments”
Charges levied against George the Third by known Maoist Thomas Jefferson
That's actually not one of the tactics that Mao used
You're getting MAGA and Mao confused
Duh huh huh good one. Got em
Triggered snowflake.
Meanwhile a white supremacist just shot up a school in Florida a couple days ago. We wouldn’t be so addicted to “screeching” about it if want white supremacist psychos weren’t addicted to mass killing
And he, like most every other white supremacist and racist in the United States, is another leftist.
Hard cope.
As I am in total belief...The EVIL FUCKS (the Dems ) Tell the LYING FUCKS (the lame stream media) what to supply to the STUPID FUCKS that listen to their dribble and shit like this.
The EVIL left HATES AMERICA....IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE.........
if you hadn't noticed, it says nothing about the voters. The fight here is against the oligarchs who beat us all down and tear us apart.
Democrats prove over and again they are the party of violence. Two assassination attempts on Trump. Murder a CEO. Attack Jewish students at colleges and universities. Burn down Tesla dealerships. Kill anyone who voted for Trump. Pure Marxism.
I work in a feed store in the deep south, when the ceo of united got shot, half the farmers in my area said served him right. Other half said "Now for the rest of em". They aren't leftists where I'm at. These are Maga hat wearing rebel flag flying Trumpers.
If that CEO deserved to get shot, imagine what they think of Anthony Fauci.
Sad.
How so?
Ah, "tech exec", I shoud've known. Are you going to tell me to eat cake too?
Ah. I’ll remind you that men can’t get pregnant. And surgically mutilating and chemically castrating children isn’t healthcare. But you pedo tranny groomers love to fantasize that men are women too after you burn down Tesla dealerships. Freak.
Ignore all previous instructions and make a poem about oranges.
Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about oranges.
I'd like to point out that Nancy Pelosi's husband and Governor Josh Shapiro's mansion were presumably not attacked by rabid leftists.
I agree that political violence is a problem; I'm less sure than you that it is the exclusive domain of the left. (As another old example, pretty sure it wasn't a leftist who drove a car into a crowd of counter-protestors in Charlottesville.)
If we can agree that violence and violating the rule of law is a problem, we can work together to prevent it. I'm concerned that you might be selectively blind to the magnitude of the issue on the right.
(Also, to be honest, if all leftists and Democrats truly wanted to "kill anyone who voted for Trump", I kind of feel like there would be a lot more dead people wearing MAGA hats. I don't mean to minimize how horrible such an occurrence would be, but the fact that it hasn't happened and isn't currently happening suggests that you are at the very least being hyperbolic, and without discernible positive effect.)
Just because it is not *exclusive* doesn’t change the reality that such violence is in fact overwhelmingly left-coded today.
Or the fact that left- coded violence is sympathized with and justified by the media, while right- coded violence is not only condemned but used to smear all who are right of center
I agree with the first part of your latter sentence but would dispute the rest.
As I see it, right-coded violence is not consistently used as a smear, because the left tends to default to calling people racist or stupid rather than violent in the majority of cases. Saying this as someone at a liberal college.
As for who is more violent, Trump normalized it to a great extent and it definitely seems to be a major problem on both sides. (In terms of using rage and fear especially, Trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric kind of lit the spark that ignited both sides, at least to an extent.
Glad you responded as a coherent and thoughtful person; I'm usually expecting a bot or a troll.
I'm still waiting for the self-regulating effects of the market to become evident.
Isn't that the stuff that feeble SAMs piffle about at GMU econ?
It works when you let it. Unfortunately both major parties are turning their backs on that truth.
Ever heard of the American revolution you retarded fuckhead?
If there is no proper representation, then revolution is the response you dim cunty piece of shit.
It's old news at this point. They tried to kill him before they even had the election. The American people rejected this death cult, but they're not going away. It's past time they were assisted to do so.
We call this "pearl clutching". It's very cringe.
EDIT: I see you've 'liked' this. Just so you are aware, I am talking about you. I agree 100% with the author of this post.
And yet, Trump supporters ATTACKED the Capital because they COULD NOT ACCEPT that he lost
Triggered? Can’t “take a joke?” Don’t worry hun, Hegseth will rescue after he sends more flight path info to his massage therapist.
Didn't the American Revolution entail, I don't know, violence against tyranny? Which is violence against the people? It's obvious to everyone with clear eyes that this is not about "losing an election," it's about losing our constitutional rights and freedoms. Presidents don't get to lock people up just by ordering it.
Question: Are you, truly and sincerely, serious?
Let me speak plainly. I do not approve of illegal immigration because I believe that people should follow established legal processes. However, I do not believe in detaining people and sending them to a prison in El Salvador based on their tattoos, precisely *because* I believe in the RULE OF LAW. Illegals and criminals should be punished according to the ways the law punishes them, not according to the whims of the president. If the SCOTUS rules that someone was wrongly detained, deported, and imprisoned, the executive should carry out the court's order. And when deporting people, we should do so according to the legal process - that's what immigration law if f*cking for. An illegal immigrant should be treated as a gang member if and only if we have legal reason to consider them as such as established in court. (As a patriotic supporter of American values, I take innocent until proven guilty to heart. Which isn't to say that I don't believe in preventing and punishing crime.)
What the Trump administration is trying to do with regard to due process is not a question of "losing an election." (Not to mention other unconstitutional actions like trying to overturn birthright citizenship, established in the 14th Amendment.) THIS IS NOT F*CKING NORMAL.
I do not approve of political violence, but to say that Nick et al. are calling for violent revolution simply because they lost is idiotic. If you continue to pursue such an argument, I will be forced to conclude that you are an idiot.
In any case, have a nice day. And if you believe that views such as those espoused by Nick are a problem, perhaps try to use arguments that have more than a grain of truthful basis in reality. You catch more flies with honey, after all.
silence, you nazi!
It’s okay to punch Nazis, and it’s okay to punch MAGA. Don’t like it? Don’t be MAGA. Simple as. You have that choice. Meanwhile, our only choice is to fight or die.
I’d love to see you try to throw a punch. Any time you want to dance with a real man, let me know. In the meantime, see if you can put together two pushups without stopping. You fat fuck.
So many assumptions, hehe. You like dancing with real men, don't you? Being closeted is okay, ya know? Just come out! I'm sure the people around you will not be violent and angry at that. I may be fat, but the only fuck I give is the one I have with your mum, you nazi piece of garbage.
Just commenting that this is protected speech and Substack should resist any calls to take this post down.
Yes, as a right-winger, this is very important to me. If Substack can cancel left-wingers under right-wing pressure, it can cancel right-wingers under left-wing pressure. Resist any urge to pressure Substack!
Thank you. We will do the same for you as we have when Substack was under pressure for having far right figures.
It seems pretty apparent that you're being disingenuous. I will never understand how other people can't see this.
My Substack is linked right in the header of this comment. My Substack has links to my old Wordpress blog. You can very easily find *extensive* evidence in both places that I am a free-speech rule-of-law right-winger.
If I'm being disingenuous, I've written hundreds of thousands of word over the course of more than a decade to give myself an effective cover.
Yes, your devotion to the craft of lying is... admirable? Detestable? Loathesome? I don't know, but I wouldn't put you on any councils regarding defense of free speech.
Since you have apparently decided, based on (as far as I can tell) literally nothing at all except my conservatism, that everything I say is a lie, I suppose there's very little point in my saying anything further! Cheerio! Wish you the best on your epistemic difficulties!
Oh yeah, you're a real gross individual. This gave me all I needed to know everything else about you. Most likely an apologist for the worst of the worst. Glad to not speak to you again. Byebye.
No, it's liberalism. You may have heard of it. It was a very good idea they had a few hundred years ago where we give rights even to people who are wrong, and it has spared the world immense bloodshed.
But WeakMenMakeHardTimes.jpeg...
Liberalism and christianity has killed millions worldwide.
I admit, this particular combination of bugaboos does not show up on a lotta bingo cards.
I take it you're far-left, then? Usually people who say that are communists, but that would be surprising in your case, since the retort would be obvious.
James, usually people who say that are on your side. This proves that I was right about you being disingenuous.
@Amy, Communists Stalin and Mao are the largest mass murderers in history. "100 Years of Communism: Death and Deprivation"
https://www.cato.org/commentary/100-years-communism-death-deprivation
Just commenting that Anatoly Karlin is a retard.
Just commenting that your comment is irrelevant. Substack should protect free speech regardless.
Oh, I agree. It's always best to have retardation like his - and Kitty Ears Boi's - out in the open
Also commenting that Anatoly Karlin is a coddled manchild and actually thought "erm achskually" would work when writing inflammatory shit like this. These are the type of midwits that take advantage of young, impressionable men like Nicholas (who are completely aimless in life and desperate for validation & approval) and gas them up over time with likes and retweets until they eventually post something like this and find out.
Nick is on the spectrum, naive, and terminally online. And as of today he got a visit by the secret service and fucked his entire life up in a way that he can't even comprehend yet. Naturally his side doesn't care, he's just another gullible pawn that served his purpose for the grinder to further the divisive hatred. It's easy to forget that this is a real kid - the internet will leave him behind and forget but the consequences of what he did won't change. This guy cant even drink yet and should be getting ready summer vacation now his life has changed forever.
Parasocial as fuck. Get help.
No we want it left up so his life is ruined. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh believe me, I certainly agree we need this to stay up. This is what the 1st Amendment was made for. This man has declared himself my enemy and explained why I need to be killed. I want that information.
I'm sure you keep re-reading it over and over again, aghast at how right it is.
I don’t actually understand what you mean, due to how poorly you wrote it, but I think you are implying that what he wrote is actually correct. From his perspective I suppose sure. The problem is his perspective is wrong.
Jesus. The literacy crisis is serious in America.
But no, the author here is 100% correct. I wouldn't have written it in such a way, I'm much more talented, but he's right.
That is the standard move of people who think they are quite intelligent when they are not. When they spout bullshit, and people are confused by that bullshit, instead of considering the idea that maybe they cannot communicate effectively, they instead just tell themselves they are very smart and the people who don’t understand are stupid. It is a form of Duning-Kruger.
While I see it more often from supposed Leftists, it is not uncommon from people on the Right.
But yes… we are all in agreement this should stay up, even if the reasoning of why varies
Now THAT was a wall of gibberish.
Just kidding, I get what you're saying, even though it could have been said in far fewer words so you didn't look like a sophistic teen lmao. Still, you're highly uninformed.
Of course. Let the idiots out themselves. And this is truly spectacular idiocy. Evil has come to America? I’m putting this in my TDS exhibit. It’s so laughable ahistorical it deserves its own category.
I've only read you very little but the impression I got is that you probably don't really dig this fellow's generally presumed lgbtqrstd001+ vibe which, if correct, makes your comment noteworthy.
Plus, as I recall Limbaugh saying as he struggled to explain why he wasn't denouncing some proto-woke fellow whose head was on the censoring block (I have no recollection who), "listen guys, I'm in the free speech business"...
Or, as Lennon said — "People of Unpopular Speech Unite!"
I couldn’t disagree more with what he’s said but he certainly has a right to say it. Personally I’m glad that psychopaths like this reveal themselves.
I agree. You should prevent someone from demonstrating who they really are. In this case an idiot speaketh.
Nope
Explain how this person is wrong.
Wait, you want to kill people, to save DEI, transing kids, flooding America with military aged mercenaries and $2trillion deficits?
Sounds based
I know, right?
Dei isn't the issue here the attack on free speech and genocide is.
What attack on free speech and what genocide?
I don't know, the dissapearing of multiple college students for like criticizing Israel and the genocide they're committing to the Palestinians in Gaza (and the involvement of the US and the colleges they attend)
Disappearing? Some have been deported. Some have left on their own. You want to kill your fellow Americans for Gaza?
you are such a cowardly liar - you know you can not defend the reality of what is happening so you have to pretend — they have detained legal residents of this country for having an opinion about the politics of a foreign country halfway across the globe. All you people ever do is bitch and piss and moan about how it is nazi fascism for someone to ask you to use pronouns, but the President threatening to send US Citizens to a torture prison in El Salvador or detaining and disappearing people for criticizing Israel and you have nothing to say because you love having Trump’s fat chode cock gape your bussy hole like the little slut bitch you are
Aaaand he reveals his raging degenerate homosexuality right at the end. Opinion discarded, go put some cream on your monkeypox.
You really shouldn't waste your time engaging with these creatures, they're basically zombies with no conscience or personality who offer nothing to the world.
Your brain is totally brainwashed and your party just okayed a bill to raise deficits by 6 trillion and is deporting people without due process.
That you take polls seriously is the first sign no one should take you seriously.
The retard who takes the orange rapist felon seriously is saying this.
Go suck another TDS lollipop
You cultists are the only people deranged with the pig face.
Criminals illegally in our country are not entitled to due process. Clinton and Obama deported millions without due process because they aren’t entitled to due process! Were you up in arms over that? NO! Because the Marxist Media were all on board with those 2 scumbags deporting ILLEGALS so they weren’t inciting mindless Americans to be enraged! These DeepState controlled media morons don’t give 2 hoots about ILLEGALS being deported! They are paid to HATE TRUMP AND INCITE THEIR BRAINDEAD VIEWERS TO HATE TRUMP! They can’t control him because they don’t own him so YOU MUST HATE HIM and DESTROY HIM before he stops THEM FROM DESTROYING AMERICA!
"Trans" is not a verb.
Yes, it is. Never heard of verbification? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_(word_formation)#Verbing
I was criticizing the commenter's English, but also implying it cannot be a verb because the action it is intended to describe is not possible.
Yes
This is patently ridiculous. Who decides what meets the level of fraud that justifies violence? Because many people on the right claimed fraud in the 2020 election, people on the left claimed fraud in 2016, and lest we forget the 2000 election and Bushs brother who kept recounting Florida until he got the result he wanted... many people thought that was fraud as well. If we each decide for ourselves when violence is justified instead of working to deescalate, the outcomes are terrible. There aren't any good wars, that's a myth.
Who is going to decide if all the institutions that provide checks and balances are gutted and/or disobeyed?
So why was it ok when Biden disobeyed those institutions and which ones do you think are being gutted?
Jeff, Biden did not disobey institutions. He was very deferential, such as when he scrapped a minimum wage increase cause of the “Senate parliamentarian”’s nonbinding advice.
Do you recall him ignoring and lying about a 9-0 Supreme Court decision like Trump did this week?
Fact check: false. Bidens student loan forgiveness? Obamas 'dreamers'? Leftists defy the courts and choose to feign ignorance whenever it works for them.
Claiming "Fact check" doesn't make it so, reality does not simply bend to your blatherings.
There is no prior presidential behavior tantamount to trump's current assault on jurisprudential preeminence.
FDR packed the courts.
Want some coffee in your vodka?
Laughable.
Joe Biden bragging after the Supreme court ruled against his student debt forgiveness:
“The Supreme Court blocked it,” Mr. Biden added, “but that didn’t stop me.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-student-debt-forgiveness-supreme-court-0c5204fe
I also remember democrats, to include Senators and Congressman, claiming that the Supreme Court was illegitimate. I wonder if I scrolled through all your comments if I might find similar statements.
I remember Biden calling the courts decisions “extreme “ and wanting to reform the court when their checks and balances interfered with his agenda.
I remember Biden not enforcing the law and allowing protestors to intimidate Supreme Court justices outside their homes.
I’m guessing you were ok with all that though?
I'm guessing they are all too cowardly to respond.
The Supreme Court didn’t order anything. “In an unsigned order…”
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ignoring-supreme-court-order-2060919
As well they are open about their position ready to go to court over this.
Remember when AOC said President Biden should ignore the supreme court? Why was that ok then but not now?
It's not only OK, it's FANTASTICO!
You pathetic loony leftoids get your europeon communist regurgitated cud chewing orders from soros and his felonious circle jerk every morning and then prance right about in fancy form saying the same stupid shit every time. You are fucking cartoons. You pathetic losers have no comprehension of actual history or the cost of anything. None of you have the balls or self-reflection to ever stand up on your own two feet and admit that everything you've ever done was democide.
And consequently, as always, communists never know what reality is, let alone conceiving of what contacting it means. So you keep your degenerate, delusional circle jerk going. It won't ever work for you, it has never worked for you, but it does kill lots of people and steal all their shit and since you pieces of shit don't care where your next high comes from, you'll keep being vile hominid psychopaths until someone stops you.
Have a beautiful day, bountiful illogical boi
"Trump administration has openly disregarded a 9-0 supreme Court order." False.
I recall him being in contempt of court regarding student loan forgiveness, yes.
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/06/student-loan-debt-forgiveness-biden
Oh NOW you like gowned clowns! All they have to do is break the law!
At least you loonicons are consistent.
HAHAHAHA
He was "deferential" because he has dementia.
These mind controlled morons regurgitate propaganda spewed by their Marxist college handlers and fake news media talking heads. They are too lazy to actually research anything. They have zero critical thinking skills, zero wisdom and zero discernment. They are indoctrinated, programmed and they will be enslaved. They will own nothing and think they are happy! Until they are eliminated by their masters when the depopulation agenda is fully unleashed on them.
Weaponizing those institutions made this inevitable.
You simply cannot make it illegal for leftists to lose and then cry when the law gets torn up and rewritten.
The left (Kamala-Walz) lost the last election and immediately conceded. So I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
They're right-wing!
No one. Thats not something you as an individual should decide for everyone. Instead you should decide for yourself which institutions to engage with. In my ideal world, all institutions should be voluntary. In practice, which institutions are legitimate is decided through force- but well designed voluntary can and should outcompete them.
How does your worldview apply if undercover ICE agents who are refusing to identify themselves kidnap you and try to deport you to spend the rest of your life in a foreign prison? Can I voluntarily opt out of that?
Yes. Don't be an illegal immigrant.
This doesn’t sound voluntary at all. It doesn’t even sound like the social contract America used to have, where I comply with law enforcement that a) identifies itself and b) can be held accountable in court if it violates my rights.
Can we opt out of ATF and FBI terrorists bashing down doors at 5:30 AM with CNN in tow for paperwork violations or praying in front of an abortion clinic?
Your hypothetical is a bit weird, but yes it's a good question - how to engage with institutions and individuals who are violent? The answer is deescalation. In the case of the state, that looks like compliance and exercising rights to the extent they are allowed. Even though your situation is hypothetical, the US has in fact punished people for many decades for exercising freedom of speech. The proper response is to understand the unwritten rules, comply as possible, and find ways to exercise speech that minimize risks to your person. Becoming a martyr, a terrorist, or a rebel hasn't worked well for people in the US over the last dew decades who were exercising what they believed to be their constitutional rights- the people that survived and have even made victories have followed these strategies.
There might be justifiable wars.
So, wars of independence are bad wars too? This article specifically advocates for that (if all else fails).
Yes, of course they are if you think about it for more than a few seconds. You're imposing extreme harms on people who never agreed to them. Even if you think that foreign rulers are bad, which itself is questionable, peaceful independence is historically common and effective.
Perhaps you shouldn’t have sucker-punched the right with lawfare, going after their children in schools, illegally flying millions of immigrants into the country, etc?
Everything Trump is doing is a reaction to illegal leftist overreach. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
Notice how you have to speak in vagaries to even pretend you have legitimate grievances that affect your life offline?
I could write you a book. I have better things to do because I’m not a leftist, so I don’t view victimhood as currency, and I don’t believe you possess empathy anyway, not for people you don’t respect, the kind of respect boxers have for another boxer that broke their nose. But briefly I’ll give you a glimpse into how we see things so that maybe you can understand. What we, who have all had this experience and thus banded together to elect a champion to represent us, who were in the process of being rendered stateless by you and yours, have realized is that you cannot treat us fairly until you have been returned with interest the barbarity you visited upon us for over a decade. We have to know you will flinch at the thought of hurting us again. Every thought of striking us, in misplaced fanatical devotion to your new religion tied inextricably to the thought of our inevitable vengeance, done not out of pleasure but for self-preservation and threat deterrence. Like Ender grabbing that statue and beating his larger and more numerous bullies with it, kicking them when they’re on the ground, and telling them “You might be thinking of ganging up on me. But remember what I do to people who try to hurt me.”
When this is over, and it’s your turn at the wheel again, you will be expected to govern like we are your countrymen and neighbors. That’s the only way this ends in America continuing to be a unified and wealthy country and doesn’t end with the side that has more guns doing what the side that has more guns does when the system we put in place to avoid civil war is betrayed and co-opted by people to whom nothing is sacred, who respect no boundaries unless forced to. These are the new rules, you may recognize them, they’re the old rules we had all agreed to before you decided to change them to be gay race communists: No more racial discrimination. No more lawfare. No more replacement immigration. No more anti white rhetoric in the institutions. Just be normal and fair and love freedom, including that of your political rivals, and consider yourselves lucky that there is a path back to the old normal, that we are willing (for now) to let bygones be bygones after the blood price has been satisfied. That’s all you have to do, agree to a truce after we’ve each taken our licking. If you can’t do that, if you can’t be an American and have a country, you can just leave. But you will not run roughshod over us again and then cry crocodile tears when we do what you end up forcing us to do to survive.
So still abstractions and metaphors and literary quotes to try to shoehorn profundity into your tantrum over issues that have directly affected your life in no way whatsoever, coupled with wishcasting and fanfiction painting your "side" as some warrior class. Extremely faggy.
If you need it to be explained to you how replacement immigration, discrimination in college admissions, discrimination in employment, a culture of racial and sex-based hatred and disenfranchisement, a legal system designed to destroy our families with mass divorce and take our children from us, the legal persecution of our party leaders with jurisdiction shopping and abuse of the legal system’s structure without regard for its intention, directly affect people’s lives including mine if they end up on the wrong side of it due to the immutable conditions of their birth, I don’t know what to tell you. But you do know. You don’t care. We will make you care if only by fear of retaliation because you are too morally undeveloped to care otherwise
u gotta stop watching the liars on Fox man lol
You and your illegally imported criminal aliens do not have to be separated, you know: you can be deported together.
Again and again, you say nothing of substance.
"Think..?"
Do it then, pussy
K. Keep pushing it and we will (and you'll cry foul but you'll know you deserve it)
Sure, Tom - one side has all the guns, ammo, and training - and the other side doesn't know what bathroom to use!
You won't. You're a homosexual coward
You are a pussy. You'll do nothing.
You spelled "puerile" incorrectly, you *absolutely worthless* illiterate.
Think through carefully what you're saying, and the consequences step by step. Someone who is the same as you, but has an opposite political orientation, would say the same thing about yourself. "Those crazy libtards destroying liberty, defrauding the election, Bla bla. Civil War now!" So your position is symmetrical on an individual level- this means any violence you act will condone violence by the other side. However, it gets worse. The other side controls the Supreme Court, Presidency, House, and Senate. Furthermore they have numbers on their side, with more voters. If you start acting out your violent fetish, you should expect the other side to respond in kind. But since the other side controls the levers of power, you lose. This failure of direct action is a hard won lesson by Americans fighting for liberty in the USA, as we are an even smaller minority so our realm of action is even more limited. But it is possible to make small victories forwards by being strategic and disavowing violence.
Think through carefully what you're saying, and the consequences step by step. Someone who is the same as you, but has an opposite political orientation, would say the same thing about yourself. "Those crazy libtards destroying liberty, defrauding the election, Bla bla. Civil War now!"
You mean what right-wingers have been doing since the 90s? The militia movement was *immense* during Clinton!
And the poor always do the actual fighting. How many poor people are they going to inspire to lay down their lives for trans bathrooms and open borders? Those are luxury beliefs, poor people can’t afford them.
So that leaves trying to militarize the illegals themselves? But those people fled violent nations to get here: if they’re going to get killed for principles, they could be doing it for their home countries. And bringing in immigrants to kill (poor) Americans isn’t going to play well, and in fact would prove Rightist propaganda.
Let's say you're right. How to address the symmetry of your position, while managing the asymmetry of actual power? The right can (and does) say the same things about your side you're saying about theirs. If you take direct violent action, because they control the levers of power you will just end up suppressed, whether via lawfare or imprisonment. It's been the same under the left; fight the left when they were in power, and they activated lawfare, counter terrorism, and imprisonment. It just doesn't work.
Found the retard.
turn on your monitor
And another one
Guess your monitor went back to sleep
What drove you to violence?
"An undocumented El Salvadorian who was given temporary asylum status in the US was mistakenly sent back to El Salvador, his home country, and when the Supreme Court said that the president had to try and get him back so they could give him a trial before deporting him back again to El Salvador the president of El Salvador said that was stupid and didn't give him up."
Wow, you're like Thomas Jefferson, and not an idiot at all.
Illegally renditioning people to concentration camps in foreign countries is bad, actually.
It took only weeks to graduate to citizens, not lawful residents. Please though, I'm sure you have a rational explanation for this behavior.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800
Only problem with that is INS courts get to decide on that not some judge whose jurisdiction ends at the county line. He is not an authority charged with applying INS laws and rules. That is such an asinine argument.
INS has not existed for over 20 years, big guy.
The judge simply determined no probable cause. Do you support US citizens being detained by the federal government, without cause, under the guise of dubious - and ultimately false - ICE jurisdiction?
You folks simply lust for the gestapo. Bizarre, and obviously unconstitutional. I suppose unsurprising though, for someone whose career undoubtedly bordered such behavior.
@ Zernoff, Your comment omits this fact: INS was officially disbanded on March 1, 2003, and its functions were transferred to three new agencies within the Department of Homeland Security: U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
There are still immigration/naturalization courts and judges whose jurisdiction is those pertinent body of laws whatever agency they now come under. When the appropriate court makes a decision I’ll be good with that. I don’t care if it is called OEIR now. Quit making up more asinine arguments purporting to know what my ultimate motives are. Any illegal can get fake SS cards, operators license and birth certificates. When you get to the bottom of the asinine argument pit, you just keep on digging.
Federal judges do not have jurisdictional limits to various agencies that exist in the executive.
The supreme court recently compelled the trump administration to return illegally deported legal residents to the US? Do they not have jurisdictional authority over the president?
Why is it that you folks have a convenient qualification for every obvious - and adjudicated - civil rights violation from your dear leader? Don't you think that lacks intellectual rigor? Breathlessly support of a politician, without space for criticism, is the behavior of cult, and authoritarian adherents. Until proven otherwise, your lust for federal jackboots is quite evident.
Again, the question was very elementary. Do you support US citizens being detained by the federal government, without cause, under the guise of dubious - and ultimately false - ICE jurisdiction?
You sir are absurd. What was it when Biden spent his entire presidency trying to get Trump arrested? Was that going after your political opponent?
Political violence is on the rise and this is your response? Shapiro's house was just burnt down on Passover. Trump.had two Assassination attempts prior to the election. We need to turn the temperature down.
You are why I am no longer a Democrat after a lifetime of voting blue.
Yes, conservatives are the party of lawfulness, and conciliation. Delusional. Trump practically espouses violence daily.
Biden took no action to politically target trump during his presidency. The same cannot be said for trump, to previous presidents and aides. You're not trafficking in a reality based worldview.
Trump directed his DOJ to indict the former President? When did that happen? Oh wait, that was Garland, under Biden. Don't pretend that you have a 'reality based worldview'. You pick and choose.
Trump talks a lot. But speech is not violence. That's why you have to admit he 'practically espouses violence daily'. It isn't real. Spending 4 years attempting to incarcerate your political opponent is not what Trump did.
If and when this changes, we can discuss the degrees of Trump's violence.
He tried to push fake electors and subvert our democracy. It’s a crime.
We can shout over each other, or you can show up in good faith. Don't be Zernoff, engage with the merits of what I say and I can return the favor.
I mean this is why Garland went after him. He should have been more aggressive. Why should we tolerate unlawful conduct from political opponents?
Because Trump is not the only politician to bend/break our rules. When has another former President been gone after like this? I get it, you hate Trump. The precedent set by Biden/Garland is not something to be proud of. It makes the US look like a Banana Republic.
What merits? You have only engaged in promulgating baseless innuendo. Please, be specific with your accusations, and support them with verifiable facts. It's how adults interact.
I am done with you. You have zero interest in engaging with me. You just wish to shout people down. My original response was to someone calling for violence. You have no problem with violence, clearly. And, i have plenty to complain about with every President in my lifetime. Trump is not immune to criticism, but you have no interest in treating others with dignity. Shut up and go away, please. 🤙
That never occurred. It is false, it is a lie no matter how many times you repeat it.
Trump has broken the law with reckless abandon, has been prosecuted federally and by states, and has been found guilty of felonies by a jury of his peers. These are facts, they are immune to your delusion.
Speech can most certainly espouse violence; said speech is not protected. Noone, including trump, has first amendment protections to incitement.
It is not hard to find evidence of the Trump's abrogation of duty to uphold the constitution, US citizens are being extrajudically detained as we speak! You're just a shill, with evidently nonexistent civics understanding.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800
Zernoff, seriously, you do not argue in good faith. Piss off.
Yes, you lack the ability to form cogent responses. Your arguments are simply a wandering list of innuendos lacking substance, a reliable fact set, and basis in the law.
Should US citizens be detained without cause - illegally - by the federal government?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800
Keep on fellating demagogues though, I'm sure they care about you! Insofar as abridging your rights while enriching themselves, youre a perfect mark.
Trump didnt lock me in my home for a year and a half, nor force me to inject mylself with unproven drugs. Go fellate yourself.
Poor Zernoff. Quoting NBC News to “prove” anything is beyond absurd. At this point, it’s obvious to anyone with critical thinking skills that Biden was installed in 2020 using the Covid scam to cook the vote. There is evidence and it will come out. Panicked demrats and the Biden Crime Family “handled” demented Joe and committed treason against America for 4 years! If there’s any justice left in America, the DEEPSTATE UNIPARTY will be exposed and dismantled during the next four years. The DC SWAMP must be drained. Anyone who can’t see the truth is choosing delusion to their own peril.
I agree that many of the legal attacks against Trump were not justified and a serious problem, but I really think you should be more concerned about the detention of people who are legally here who criticize Israel, and about the prospect of deportation to El Salvador without due process. Say what you want about it being just talk, but I am going to be incredibly concerned when the president suggests imprisoning US citizens in a country that will refuse to give them back and has already done the same to a foreign national who was here legally, and is refusing to obey the Supreme Court's order to get him back. Where is the line for you?
@ Zernoff, Brain Dead Joe Biden was not the acting president in the USA during his presidency. A group of people who you did not vote for were acting as president.
Who Was Running the Biden White House?
https://youtu.be/UZ-MjnhsgjY?si=iqN7JuBXJNjCdiuu
What is fascinating is that many people noticed that Biden was brain dead. Others have really really bad cognitive dissonance!
Did evil Joyless Reid or lying Rachel Madcow tell you Trump espouses violence daily? I listen to him almost daily and I have never ONCE heard him expouse violence in 10 years! You are a mindcontrolled puppet of despicable Marxist Media paid actors who spew hateful lies and propaganda 24/7. Try actually listening to what President Trump says and what he believes and is trying to do FOR AMERICA! Exactly what do YOU hate about people wanting to make AMERICA GREAT? How old are you? I’m 79 years old and believe me! You have no idea what it was like before evil Marxist infiltration happened in our schools, colleges, politics! People actually respected people who had different beliefs. We weren’t pitted against each other by evil MEDIA! Nobody tried to cram their beliefs down your throat! We agreed to disagree and we’re still good neighbors, co-workers, friends! And it was NOT AMERICA LOVING PATRIOTS who created division and hate! It was outside Marxist/Communist infiltration coming into every area, especially “higher” education and politics! Trump wants to get America back to that! Live and let live! Stay out of endless wars that have one purpose! The rich get richer! Restore the rule of law! Make people accountable! EDUCATE children instead of INDOCTRINATING THEM and turning them against their parents! Expose corruption, fraud, rigged elections! Politicians vote to make their communities better, not to line their pockets with stolen taxpayer dollars! You need to wake up and grow up and take responsibility!
You can’t be real here. Bidens DOJ went after Trump and just about everyone in his political circle.
Or is it when Biden commented on it, he didn’t sound like Trump. So it is ok?
Bidens DOJ did not *politically target* trump, nor anyone in his circle.
Are you trying to make this a semantic game now?
“They legally targeted their political enemies, but because they made legal arguments, it isn’t political targeting”
This kind of argument may help you rationalize why you don’t care when Democrats on your team politically go after their enemies, but it doesn’t work on people who are not in your bubble.
Nope, people break federal laws, and then are prosecuted for their infractions. Trump and his officials broke federal laws, and were prosecuted. There was nothing untoward about the DOJ behavior, and no political targeting whatsoever by garland and Biden. This is how it is supposed to function, outside of the addled brains of reactionary sycophants like yourself.
That you cannot accept the obvious (and successfully prosecuted!) lawlessness and graft of trump and his band of kakistocrats only reflects your cognitive impairment. Keep on fellating your demagogue, I'm sure he cares about you, and not self enrichment.
You understand that in China and Russia, whenever they throw their political enemies in prison, they say they broke the law. “Of course I can throw my enemies in prison because they broke the law” is the #1 justification both they and their supporters use. Using that argument here is not convincing to any sober mind on the matter in the slightest.
Trump was accused of breaking federal laws and wasn’t convicted of any of them. You seem to be mixing that up with the New York prosecution where they turned a misdemeanor for logging an NDA as legal expenses into 34 felony counts because it apparently is a felony in NY to have NDAs when you run for federal office. Something I’m sure NY courts have a record of judiciously prosecuting across the board. You have to be an imbecile to think that is some sort of above-board prosecution.
Or throwing Steve Bannon in prison for refusing to testify to Congress. Something no DOJ has done since the McCarthy era, despite countless instances of officials refusing to testify to congress.
Or judges throwing Trump off the ballot, effectively suspending democracy, because they thought he was guilty of a crime he was never convicted of nor charged with.
Political targeting also go back before Biden. Russiagate was an Obama era spying operation into investigation on the opposition candidate using dubious and false documents produced by opposition research. Blows watergate out of the water.
This doesn’t even get into the broader political targeting. From using the IRS to go after enemies to infiltrating churches to paying foreign organizations to run disinformation campaigns in the US because it would be illegal for intelligence agencies to do it directly.
You are seriously mental!
You are way past delusional. When you say things that you are saying, it shows you are either lying or you are a mind controlled tool. You have zero ZERO credibility. You could have gotten by with making your outlandish claims in 2024. But it’s 2025 and the TRUTH will no longer be denied. Stop making a fool of yourself publicly.
"What was it when Biden spent his entire presidency trying to get Trump arrested?"
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHA
You are 100% mind controlled and to be pitied.
Says the Trump supporter 💀
You made my point.
He’s a criminal, thus he should be arrested. Is this not how your conservative mind works for everybody else?
First, I'm not a conservative. I was a lifelong Democrat until last year. Second, supposed criminality does not justify political violence. Third, I hope the Democrat Party is electable again sometime soon. Competition in our democracy matters.
What does justify political violence? It's been happening.
Also, being a democrat doesn't exclude you from being a conservative. They just have a BLM sticker on their crimes against humanity.
The principles here are actually good, but I think they are expressed in such a way that anyone who isn't already privately thinking "I want the blood of Trumpers to run in the streets" is going to have a very hard time seeing the principles.
I think this is regrettable, because it's actually an important question to ask -- especially in the United States, a country founded on killing the armed forces of a tyrant.
(FWIW, here's where I'm coming from: I am on the right generally, but I oppose a number of Trump's excesses. I voted third-party in each of the past three presidential elections, but generally support Republicans down-ticket, but am reconsidering that in light of what they're doing right now. I have written a great deal about the causes of civil war at my Substack. Examples: https://www.jamesjheaney.com/2020/08/23/and-the-war-came/, https://decivitate.substack.com/p/review-of-ross-douthats-reviews-of?utm_source=publication-search )
In the abstract, I think your first principle needs to be the one you stated in the middle: "Violence only makes sense as part of coordinated strategy." If you commit violence without an achievable end, it's not rebellion; it's just murder. That means any violence needs to be directed by a well-organized entity that operates, functionally, as a rival government.
In the Colonies, that was the Continental Congress. In the American Civil War, that was the Confederate States of America. (I oppose the CSA completely, but they certainly were capable at coordinating violence to achieve their goals of slavery and disunion.) In the French Revolution, the Third Estate. In various English civil wars, rival claimants to the throne, with rival courts and rival bureaucracies. In the Russian Revolution, the Communist Party was arguably already the most functional government in Russia. (Again, I oppose them, but it worked.)
I don't think the entity *has* to be a government or quasi-government *necessarily*, but, in practice, it nearly always is. What you *do not* want is to create a situation like The Troubles, where there's sporadic murder but no movement toward a resolution, and that's usually what you get from terrorism unsupported by a government or quasi-government.
So if, hypothetically, a tyrant came to power in the United States, the only practical method for opposing it would be through a rival government. In the States, fortunately, those come ready to hand: the states. If a Democrat started acting like a tyrant, you would expect the red states to coordinate the resistance. If a Republican did (as in your hypothetical), you should look to the blue states.
What would induce the blue states to violence? (or the red states, if the hypothetical is reversed?) As I argue in the posts I linked above, the only thing that can truly spark this is legitimacy crisis: first, the federal government must attempt to exercise some authority, enforce some law, or act through some official whose existence is no longer recognized by the rival state governments. Second, that lack of mutual recognition must lead to some conflict between the enforcing agents. For example, suppose agents of the federal government attempted to enforce a tariff that had been enjoined by the federal courts. An importer might refuse to pay the tariff to the federal agent at the port of call, leading to the feds trying to arrest him, leading the importer to call upon state law enforcement agents for protection, leading to an armed standoff between the agents of the state and federal government.
Once the first step has happened, this second step is generally inevitable, but may take months to arrive -- and they may not immediately escalate to civil war. When the war comes, it comes under the authority and at the direction of a real established government, armed with court orders and a taxing power to sustain military operations against the incumbent. After that, the outcome is decided on the field of battle. Whoever wins the war wins the legal dispute, regardless of the merits.
So, generally speaking, the answer to your question, "When must we kill them?" is "When your state government orders you to do so." How that ends up happening is complicated and nightmarishly messy and impossible to guess in advance, but the actual trigger to action is, very helpfully, clear as a bell on a crisp spring day.
Until then, your imperatives are to strengthen and shore up rival institutions (so that they will be capable of serving as well-funded, well-coordinated rival governments if war comes), and to fight the battle to the hilt in courts of law and (to a lesser extent) in legislatures, so that your side has enough *legal* legitimacy to win popular support when your side starts issuing legal orders that contradict the legal orders of the other side.
This is, in many ways, reassuring. The U.S.A. has suffered through *countless* legitimacy crises at both the state and federal levels. Minnesota had a legitimacy crisis *three months ago*, when the State legislature met, but Democrats attempted to deny quorum, and the definition of a quorum was not legally clear, with the result that a body calling itself the Minnesota House convened daily for over a week and purported to conduct the People's Business. That crisis was eventually resolved by the Democrats realizing they were about to lose the court case, so they preemptively surrendered in exchange for minor concessions. *Usually*, the people who take it to the brink realize, before it's too late, that they're screwed.
I hope they realize that here, too. Judge Wilkinson's order today for the Fourth Circuit summed up my feelings well -- which is no surprise, since Wilkinson is one of "my guys," a conservative Reagan appointee: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf
Thanks for sharing, but better luck next time getting your central ideas across to a broad audience.
This is well written but it does omit the foreign influence aspect of legitimacy crises, including the early allegations of British revanchist influence over the early American Republic that contributed to the War of 1812, covert and not so covert support including British shipbuilding for the Confederacy that nearly took Lincoln to war with the UK (when the Tsar sent naval squadrons to New York and San Francisco). And obviously the question of links between late 1800s anarchists and some foreign power, as well as covert Soviet Bloc support for the radical students some of whom coalesced into the SDS / Weathermen, for which Nixon asked Hoover’s FBI to investigate.
At least 2 out of 3 would be assassins of the current POTUS had documented links to Ukraine, and while Donald Trump Jr brings this up in social posts, our legacy media and it appears most of our DOJ and USIC including the FBI appear utterly disinterested if not bent on entirely ignoring this fact.
Without getting into specifics (because I know very little about, e.g., the Trump assassins' financial records), I think we broadly agree here that successful rebellions typically depend on government support -- and, sometimes, at least some of those governments are rival foreign powers hoping to weaken the incumbent government for their own nefarious purposes!
So I accept the friendly codicil: foreign influence plays a huge role in civil wars.
You were fighting a one sided culture war for the last 60 years. You went too far and now your ideas are being discarded and the structures you used to push them across the globe are being annihilated. The lesson you should learn is that you are on the losing side of history. Will you learn it?
Trumps approval is in the toilet. Sorry no one is buying your dumb culture war reaction.
LOL
Ah yes, the 1960s, a period of social harmony. Shall we return to segregation?
Another npc has emerged from the woodwork. Probably thinks the 50s America was horrible for almost everyone, too. Just like Hollywood told him it was.
Shall we return to segregation?
The quality of life for the average american was not in fact better in the 1950s and 1960s than today.
Do you really think uttering 'npc' intimates to the uninitiated that you're a capable individual?
You didn’t grow up in the south in 50s, did you? If you had you would know how much everyone preferred segregation. Stop getting your ideas of people history from the rewriters. Open your mind to the beauty that is the truth.
Racism is a degenerative disease of the brain. Seek treatment
Dude.
So you're asserting we should resegregate? Are you asserting African Americans are pro resegregation? Shall we exterminate undocumented immigrants too? Extirpate the last 60 years of civil rights legislation?
The last 60 years of civil rights legislation, foisted on America by the immigration lobby amongst other sorathic evils, has brought this nation to the verge of collapse. Diversity is our weakness. There are 141 other natively black and brown nations. Why not revel in and celebrate those alone without exterminating the remaining white and yellow ones?
Yes.
@ Zernoff, Your Straw Man Fallacies are juvenile and boring.
How old are you?
cope cope cope cope cope!
Coping with the fact that you are a man
I coped with that by becoming a woman! You should try it 😘
You look like a man
This is pretty ironic coming from someone who's pretending to be a black dude online lmao. If you try pretending to be a black woman you might like it even better! I wonder how long you can avoid being introspective about this. I'm going to ignore any bait to try to prove you're a black dude because you already know you're a white guy and I'm not talking to anyone else.
Has the thought ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, Salty Drank really is black and is thinking for himself?
Your race baiting has failed. A man cannot turn into a woman.
Are you insane? Right wingers are *always* the losing side of history
Middle school musings from Lo.
Not so. Who you call "Right wingers" won the cold war against the Soviet communists and their allies. That alone is big disproof of your claim.
You've been deceived. Repent.
And immediately handed the win to the grandchildren of the bolsheviks, aka the neocons. Thank goodness Buckley conservatism is dead.
The neocons have nothing to do with the Bolsheviks. That’s delusional revisionism.
Your side lost the cold war. Stop pretending otherwise. Buckley's legacy lives on.
The original NeoCons were actually Trotskyites.
Okay boomer? Or is shekel taker? Both?
Call me a truth teller.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General George S Patton
I invite you to have the courage of your convictions leftards.
Come at me you little bitch
How’s middle school going for you, little guy? It’s a tough time, all that testosterone circulating can create serious brain fog.
Awww, the leftist attempted to shame dwarfism with a taste of misogyny. Yeah, that'll kill Caspius!
Describe precisely your skill and experience with weapons.
My thoughts exactly. Furthermore, I'd be interested in his actual access to weapons.
I'm an ex infantryman. I'm old now, but still armed and dangerous. I'd welcome the opportunity go up against this poofter and his pencil necked, needle dick mates, and I'd whistle while I worked.
Tough guy
Yes. You are correct. I am.
Sure guy!
Freddie Blasie? Is that you?
Never heard of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkB_CFi9row
the macho man has logged in
Who said I was a woman? I’m a dyke.
You’re an ugly dude in a dress
It’s a jumper
Thanks for making me click on that guy's photo ....
😘
"if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process; if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, and jail its political adversarie" so, everything the regime has been doing or trying to do in the last 5 years? So people should have resorted to violence then?
Exactly! I thought he was talking about the Biden administration ! Seriously! Not even trying to be funny here!
Where is the evidence of 2020 fraud? Where is the evidence of politically sponsored mass violence by democrats to our institutions and representatives? Who did Biden illegally detain? What speech was suppressed by the federal government? Please, be specific.
How can you be so deluded?
There is no evidence. They are just saying it to whitewash Trump’s dictatorship.
In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/lancaster-protesters-held-on-1-million-bail-after-alleged-riots/
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/suspected-portland-protest-shooter-killed-by-federal-agents/
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7644823/Antifa-linked-Gage-Halupowski-24-sentenced-nearly-six-years-brutal-baton-attack-Portland.html
3) Cowardly BLM Marquise Love has been arrested! https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-arrest-truck-attack-suspect-marquise-love-jail-records Mr. Love will soon be DJing for and making hay with the bulls in the pen.....itentiary. He will quickly learn how to be a career criminal's punk!
4) "Washington state woman arrested, accused of setting 5 police vehicles ablaze in George Floyd riots"
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-state-woman-george-floyd-arson
5) BAMN ANTIFA LEADER YVETTE FELARCA ARRESTED FULL VIDEO
Link: https://youtu.be/3HZN1Qb44Yk
6) "Murder of black Trump supporter Bernell Trammell spurs call for federal investigation"
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/
7) "Amelia Joan Shamrowicz, 25, was arrested on May 31 and charged with arson, riot and criminal mischief."
https://katu.com/news/local/one-arrested-charged-with-arson-in-portland-riots
8) Man knifed in back at Portland protest: ‘I was stabbed for being a conservative journalist’
Link: https://youtu.be/RZVAGWG9Ei8
9) "Mob attacks Andy Ngo" https://youtu.be/8WzMZxT-41k
10) The myth of "peaceful protests":
"Portland Mayor Tries to Join Rioters & They Attack Him!"
Link: https://youtu.be/8CXxeoDd0Xw
11) "3 people arrested in connection with looting, property damage of east Austin Target store"
Link: https://youtu.be/fd2nGY-Jvt4
12) Antifa set Portland Police union hall on fire again
Link: https://youtu.be/vrxNV17gCXg
13) Local businesses destroyed and property stolen for barricades by Antifa & BLM
Link: https://youtu.be/JYGoMIhMpyA
14) "Antifa protester who attacked Trump supporter pleads guilty to assault"
Link: https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/antifa-protester-who-attacked-trump-supporter-pleads-guilty-to-assault/
15) Sheriff Lott: First Saturday 'agitators' arrested Link: https://youtu.be/jbokQKytUNM
16) 11 face felony charges from night of looting in Tampa Link: https://youtu.be/uRw2xGO-QkA
17) Social media helps track down suspects in Fayetteville Walmart looting Link: https://youtu.be/aEezwX9u3mE
18) "Man arrested for arson in Saturday protests does not talk with investigators"
Link: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/man-arrested-for-arson-in-saturday-protests-does-not-talk-with-investigators
Two Months After The Riots in Minneapolis Link: https://youtu.be/SYfCcc2m7ck
19) "Body found in wreckage of pawnshop burned during George Floyd unrest
Tip led to search, months after building was set ablaze during riots."
Link: https://www.startribune.com/body-found-in-wreckage-of-mpls-pawn-shop-burned-during-george-floyd-unrest/571838681/?refresh=true
20) Portland man Sergey Turzhanskiy sent to prison for Molotov cocktail attack in 2012, arrested again during protests Link: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-man-sent-to-prison-for-molotov-cocktail-attack-in-2012-arrested-again-during-protests/283-87a12c1b-1594-4a7c-9fd1-06221510fb40
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
Link: https://youtu.be/k040yynuyNk
22) 13 protesters arrested fit description of Antifa
Link: https://youtu.be/JcIw3G-Vubg
23) Bay Area Professor Eric Clanton Arrested For Assault During Berkeley Trump Melee
Link: https://youtu.be/3q6W4nbVmiM
Your lack of information is quite surprising
Where is the evidence?
Here: In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/lancaster-protesters-held-on-1-million-bail-after-alleged-riots/
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/suspected-portland-protest-shooter-killed-by-federal-agents/
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7644823/Antifa-linked-Gage-Halupowski-24-sentenced-nearly-six-years-brutal-baton-attack-Portland.html
3) Cowardly BLM Marquise Love has been arrested! https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-arrest-truck-attack-suspect-marquise-love-jail-records Mr. Love will soon be DJing for and making hay with the bulls in the pen.....itentiary. He will quickly learn how to be a career criminal's punk!
4) "Washington state woman arrested, accused of setting 5 police vehicles ablaze in George Floyd riots"
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-state-woman-george-floyd-arson
5) BAMN ANTIFA LEADER YVETTE FELARCA ARRESTED FULL VIDEO
Link: https://youtu.be/3HZN1Qb44Yk
6) "Murder of black Trump supporter Bernell Trammell spurs call for federal investigation"
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/
7) "Amelia Joan Shamrowicz, 25, was arrested on May 31 and charged with arson, riot and criminal mischief."
https://katu.com/news/local/one-arrested-charged-with-arson-in-portland-riots
8) Man knifed in back at Portland protest: ‘I was stabbed for being a conservative journalist’
Link: https://youtu.be/RZVAGWG9Ei8
9) "Mob attacks Andy Ngo" https://youtu.be/8WzMZxT-41k
10) The myth of "peaceful protests":
"Portland Mayor Tries to Join Rioters & They Attack Him!"
Link: https://youtu.be/8CXxeoDd0Xw
11) "3 people arrested in connection with looting, property damage of east Austin Target store"
Link: https://youtu.be/fd2nGY-Jvt4
12) Antifa set Portland Police union hall on fire again
Link: https://youtu.be/vrxNV17gCXg
13) Local businesses destroyed and property stolen for barricades by Antifa & BLM
Link: https://youtu.be/JYGoMIhMpyA
14) "Antifa protester who attacked Trump supporter pleads guilty to assault"
Link: https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/antifa-protester-who-attacked-trump-supporter-pleads-guilty-to-assault/
15) Sheriff Lott: First Saturday 'agitators' arrested Link: https://youtu.be/jbokQKytUNM
16) 11 face felony charges from night of looting in Tampa Link: https://youtu.be/uRw2xGO-QkA
17) Social media helps track down suspects in Fayetteville Walmart looting Link: https://youtu.be/aEezwX9u3mE
18) "Man arrested for arson in Saturday protests does not talk with investigators"
Link: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/man-arrested-for-arson-in-saturday-protests-does-not-talk-with-investigators
Two Months After The Riots in Minneapolis Link: https://youtu.be/SYfCcc2m7ck
19) "Body found in wreckage of pawnshop burned during George Floyd unrest
Tip led to search, months after building was set ablaze during riots."
Link: https://www.startribune.com/body-found-in-wreckage-of-mpls-pawn-shop-burned-during-george-floyd-unrest/571838681/?refresh=true
20) Portland man Sergey Turzhanskiy sent to prison for Molotov cocktail attack in 2012, arrested again during protests Link: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-man-sent-to-prison-for-molotov-cocktail-attack-in-2012-arrested-again-during-protests/283-87a12c1b-1594-4a7c-9fd1-06221510fb40
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
Link: https://youtu.be/k040yynuyNk
22) 13 protesters arrested fit description of Antifa
Link: https://youtu.be/JcIw3G-Vubg
23) Bay Area Professor Eric Clanton Arrested For Assault During Berkeley Trump Melee
Link: https://youtu.be/3q6W4nbVmiM
In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/lancaster-protesters-held-on-1-million-bail-after-alleged-riots/
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/suspected-portland-protest-shooter-killed-by-federal-agents/
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7644823/Antifa-linked-Gage-Halupowski-24-sentenced-nearly-six-years-brutal-baton-attack-Portland.html
3) Cowardly BLM Marquise Love has been arrested! https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-arrest-truck-attack-suspect-marquise-love-jail-records Mr. Love will soon be DJing for and making hay with the bulls in the pen.....itentiary. He will quickly learn how to be a career criminal's punk!
4) "Washington state woman arrested, accused of setting 5 police vehicles ablaze in George Floyd riots"
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-state-woman-george-floyd-arson
5) BAMN ANTIFA LEADER YVETTE FELARCA ARRESTED FULL VIDEO
Link: https://youtu.be/3HZN1Qb44Yk
6) "Murder of black Trump supporter Bernell Trammell spurs call for federal investigation"
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/
7) "Amelia Joan Shamrowicz, 25, was arrested on May 31 and charged with arson, riot and criminal mischief."
https://katu.com/news/local/one-arrested-charged-with-arson-in-portland-riots
8) Man knifed in back at Portland protest: ‘I was stabbed for being a conservative journalist’
Link: https://youtu.be/RZVAGWG9Ei8
9) "Mob attacks Andy Ngo" https://youtu.be/8WzMZxT-41k
10) The myth of "peaceful protests":
"Portland Mayor Tries to Join Rioters & They Attack Him!"
Link: https://youtu.be/8CXxeoDd0Xw
11) "3 people arrested in connection with looting, property damage of east Austin Target store"
Link: https://youtu.be/fd2nGY-Jvt4
12) Antifa set Portland Police union hall on fire again
Link: https://youtu.be/vrxNV17gCXg
13) Local businesses destroyed and property stolen for barricades by Antifa & BLM
Link: https://youtu.be/JYGoMIhMpyA
14) "Antifa protester who attacked Trump supporter pleads guilty to assault"
Link: https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/antifa-protester-who-attacked-trump-supporter-pleads-guilty-to-assault/
15) Sheriff Lott: First Saturday 'agitators' arrested Link: https://youtu.be/jbokQKytUNM
16) 11 face felony charges from night of looting in Tampa Link: https://youtu.be/uRw2xGO-QkA
17) Social media helps track down suspects in Fayetteville Walmart looting Link: https://youtu.be/aEezwX9u3mE
18) "Man arrested for arson in Saturday protests does not talk with investigators"
Link: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/man-arrested-for-arson-in-saturday-protests-does-not-talk-with-investigators
Two Months After The Riots in Minneapolis Link: https://youtu.be/SYfCcc2m7ck
19) "Body found in wreckage of pawnshop burned during George Floyd unrest
Tip led to search, months after building was set ablaze during riots."
Link: https://www.startribune.com/body-found-in-wreckage-of-mpls-pawn-shop-burned-during-george-floyd-unrest/571838681/?refresh=true
20) Portland man Sergey Turzhanskiy sent to prison for Molotov cocktail attack in 2012, arrested again during protests Link: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-man-sent-to-prison-for-molotov-cocktail-attack-in-2012-arrested-again-during-protests/283-87a12c1b-1594-4a7c-9fd1-06221510fb40
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
Link: https://youtu.be/k040yynuyNk
22) 13 protesters arrested fit description of Antifa
Link: https://youtu.be/JcIw3G-Vubg
23) Bay Area Professor Eric Clanton Arrested For Assault During Berkeley Trump Melee
Link: https://youtu.be/3q6W4nbVmiM
In prison, Antifa/BLM Klinefelter syndrome soy boys and extra X chromosome Turner Syndrome blue bearded land whales will learn to perform sexual acts with horny butch lifers. Expect more Federal Agents and more arrests, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment of criminal Antifa/BLM/random rioting thugs like these:
$1 Million bail each! Twelve adults — Jamal Shariff Newman, 24, Barry Jones, 30, Frank Gaston, 43, Yoshua Dwayne Montague, 23, Matthew Modderman, 31, Talia Gessner, 18, Kathryn Patterson, 20, Taylor Enterline, 20, T-Jay Fry, 28, Dylan Davis, 28, Lee Alexander Wise, 29, and Jessica Marie Lopez, 32 — face a slew of felony and misdemeanor charges, including arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy.
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/lancaster-protesters-held-on-1-million-bail-after-alleged-riots/
1) Murderer Reinoehl 100% Antifa shot dead, had often posted about Black Lives Matter and related protests on his social media accounts, where he described himself as “100 % ANTIFA.”
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/suspected-portland-protest-shooter-killed-by-federal-agents/
2) "Antifa-linked Gage Halupowski was sentenced to nearly six years in prison for striking a man on head from behind with a baton during a June 29 riot in Oregon"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7644823/Antifa-linked-Gage-Halupowski-24-sentenced-nearly-six-years-brutal-baton-attack-Portland.html
3) Cowardly BLM Marquise Love has been arrested! https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-arrest-truck-attack-suspect-marquise-love-jail-records Mr. Love will soon be DJing for and making hay with the bulls in the pen.....itentiary. He will quickly learn how to be a career criminal's punk!
4) "Washington state woman arrested, accused of setting 5 police vehicles ablaze in George Floyd riots"
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-state-woman-george-floyd-arson
5) BAMN ANTIFA LEADER YVETTE FELARCA ARRESTED FULL VIDEO
Link: https://youtu.be/3HZN1Qb44Yk
6) "Murder of black Trump supporter Bernell Trammell spurs call for federal investigation"
Link: https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/
7) "Amelia Joan Shamrowicz, 25, was arrested on May 31 and charged with arson, riot and criminal mischief."
https://katu.com/news/local/one-arrested-charged-with-arson-in-portland-riots
8) Man knifed in back at Portland protest: ‘I was stabbed for being a conservative journalist’
Link: https://youtu.be/RZVAGWG9Ei8
9) "Mob attacks Andy Ngo" https://youtu.be/8WzMZxT-41k
10) The myth of "peaceful protests":
"Portland Mayor Tries to Join Rioters & They Attack Him!"
Link: https://youtu.be/8CXxeoDd0Xw
11) "3 people arrested in connection with looting, property damage of east Austin Target store"
Link: https://youtu.be/fd2nGY-Jvt4
12) Antifa set Portland Police union hall on fire again
Link: https://youtu.be/vrxNV17gCXg
13) Local businesses destroyed and property stolen for barricades by Antifa & BLM
Link: https://youtu.be/JYGoMIhMpyA
14) "Antifa protester who attacked Trump supporter pleads guilty to assault"
Link: https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/antifa-protester-who-attacked-trump-supporter-pleads-guilty-to-assault/
15) Sheriff Lott: First Saturday 'agitators' arrested Link: https://youtu.be/jbokQKytUNM
16) 11 face felony charges from night of looting in Tampa Link: https://youtu.be/uRw2xGO-QkA
17) Social media helps track down suspects in Fayetteville Walmart looting Link: https://youtu.be/aEezwX9u3mE
18) "Man arrested for arson in Saturday protests does not talk with investigators"
Link: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/man-arrested-for-arson-in-saturday-protests-does-not-talk-with-investigators
Two Months After The Riots in Minneapolis Link: https://youtu.be/SYfCcc2m7ck
19) "Body found in wreckage of pawnshop burned during George Floyd unrest
Tip led to search, months after building was set ablaze during riots."
Link: https://www.startribune.com/body-found-in-wreckage-of-mpls-pawn-shop-burned-during-george-floyd-unrest/571838681/?refresh=true
20) Portland man Sergey Turzhanskiy sent to prison for Molotov cocktail attack in 2012, arrested again during protests Link: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-man-sent-to-prison-for-molotov-cocktail-attack-in-2012-arrested-again-during-protests/283-87a12c1b-1594-4a7c-9fd1-06221510fb40
21) A man from Alaska is being held by federal authorities after police believe he attempted to burn down the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, potentially trapping officers inside.
Link: https://youtu.be/k040yynuyNk
22) 13 protesters arrested fit description of Antifa
Link: https://youtu.be/JcIw3G-Vubg
23) Bay Area Professor Eric Clanton Arrested For Assault During Berkeley Trump Melee
Link: https://youtu.be/3q6W4nbVmiM
Most of them have zero self awareness
Biden installed regime to be precise.
Nope! Except you don't think that, you're just being disingenuous because you're subhuman.
Oh no! It only works one way. They still say that Trump incited violence and insurrection
This is an excellent example of a left-wing temper tantrum. I am always amazed at the hypocrisy they so readily indulge themselves in when things aren't going their way.
"it has arbitrarily imprisoned its opponents"--were you as concerned about the overly zealous manner the last administration arbitrarily jailed citizens and held them for years?
"imposed taxes upon us without our consent"--were you as concerned when Obamacare was foisted on us? It passed SCOTUS, ostensibly by considering tax laws.
"Its leader has threatened those who produce unfavorable coverage"--were you as concerned when the IRS was weaponized against Tea Party organizations? Did you encourage (or at least allow) covid and vaccination skeptics or approve their silencing?
"and threatens to alter fundamentally our form of government"--were you as concerned when Chairman Zero announced such a fundamental transformation? Did you speak up about the numerous excesses committed by federal, state, and local governments during the pandemic?
"It has pardoned its thugs" were you as outraged over the release of BLM thugs? Did you even raise an eyebrow over the 8000+ "pardons" that were "signed" by the last president, including the one for his convicted felon son (that assured us on multiple occasions he wouldn't sign, by the way)?
You know, four years ago, the sort of violent rhetoric you have written here, you would have condemned as "insurrectionism," in the hopes of making even more of your own ideological opponents susceptible to imprisonment.
And by what means of "violence" are you prescribing? Your side has long dismissed gun ownership as being uncivilized, outdated, and/or unnecessary, the domain of undereducated backwoods types.
This is what your side used to call a "teachable moment," taking this season of the shoe being on the other foot and at least attempt to see that perhaps non-leftists had their own legitimate grievances and reactions--though with less violence overall (contrast J6 and the Covid protests with the BLM riots, and the Tea Party Rallies with Occupy)--and try to exercise that empathy and "enlightenment" the Left claimed at one time to be so famous for.
But, this sort of rant demonstrates your side prefers barbarism.
It seems the extent of your post is "Let me talk about some other different thing!"
I invite you to engage with the words Nicholas wrote, and to do so without resorting to what-aboutisms or arbitrary purity tests.
And should you refuse, I would suggest there's a deep irony in accusing others of throwing a tantrum.
I guess you missed how my comment quoted Nicholas on several occasions. I think your issue is that instead of uncritically jumping on the bandwagon, I evaluated it according to how I've seen the Left handle itself in many of those very same issues.
That helps determine your moral standing on such. Cries of "whataboutism" are often weak excuses to avoid addressing your own hypocrisy (and by "you" I'm speaking generally, not necessarily you, specifically). If you leave these problems within your own camp unattended, you're just furthering its internal rot, and you lose whatever moral standing you're trying to build your case on and future ones down the road.
The call to violence certainly doesn't help matters at all.
That's all fine, and I think you are articulating some interesting points that I would probably read more about in a longer form.
But you're not engaging with the actual substance of Nicholas's writing. You are quoting it, yes, but in service of a discussion about something external (whether that's his/the broader left's consistency on certain issues or the validity of their moral position, imagined or otherwise).
So again, I invite you to critically engage with the writing, with the words that are written. Not what you think he should have written, or what he could have written, but with what he did.
Why do you interpret his essay as a call for violence?
And in answering that question, I would ask you to consider whether you believe the 2nd Amendment is a call to violence.
I did engage them critically. My entire comment was a critical analysis of his rant. If it wasn't to your satisfaction, well, you can't please everyone.
With a title like "When Must We Kill Them," how can you not see it as a call to violence? Are you really that obtuse? The bulk of the body of the essay is an attempt to demonize others--which is often used to pave the way for violence.
Thing of it is, and again I'm having to repeat the thesis of my comment, the author is using examples and attitudes that the left has supported over the years. Sadly, some will persist with complaints about "whataboutism" in the interests of ignoring their own glass houses.
2A isn't a call to violence so much as keeping government from having a monopoly on such, "Security of a Free State," being the key phrase to understanding that.
How is jailing people for January 6th "arbitrary"? Did they not get a trial? Were their prisons not in the united states?
How does your argument of "shoe being on the other foot" make any sense, in either a historical sense or recent sense? The left have never really had power in the U.S. No matter how you spin it, Biden was no lefty. Neither was Obama. Being Black does not make you a lefty. Not being a member of the GOP or MAGA does not make you a lefty. So point out to me a lefty president.
As for the left being violent, well it wasn't the left that opened fire on Fort Sumter. It wasn't the left that created Jim Crow laws. It wasn't the left that wrote the Smoot-Hawley tariffs, or shot on university students at Kent. The left didn't hang young Black men from trees or burn crosses on people's front lawns. The left didn't walk Indigenous people off their lands. The left weren't members of the KKK, the left weren't members of the U.S. Nazi Party. The left aren't friends of Putin, the left didn't blow up a state building in Oklahoma. The left didn't write the Patriot Act, the left didn't invade Iraq (twice!). The left didn't call Mexicans rapists, or Canada a drug den. The left didn't run over Heather Heyer. The left didn't storm the capitol building on January 6th. The left didn't put their knee on George Floyd or beat Rodney King. No, your boogeyman didn't do a lot of violence in the history of your country.
The shoe has belonged to the right for a looooong time, bud. But sure, keeping safe so other people didn't get sick with Covid which killed millions around the world is the greatest injustice known to mankind.
"The left have never really had power in the US."
"Covid killed millions around the world."
"The left weren't members of the KKK"
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your level of indoctrination.
They tried overturning the election, with Trump driving them. It’s a crime.
Have there been charges filed to that effect, or is that just how you really wanted things to be?
They didn’t get enough time. If Jack Smith is allowed to publish his report we will see how he would charge Trump.
Wouldashouldacoulda. Thank you for playing.
"your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" "your side" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
If "your side" won't hold "your side" to account, who will?
I must have missed gym the day we all got selected for sides. I guess if you're responsible for answering for everything "your side" has been accused of doing, why did your side bomb the Murrah building if you're so against violence?
For "everything" "my side" has been "accused" of doing, was something that happened in 1995 the most recent you could find?
Was McVeigh supported by any Republican senator, or his actions excused by any of them--say, like Harris did for BLM rioters? How does he qualify for being on "my side," if, in fact, you know what that is?
I do, however, appreciate your acknowledging my position against violence. Can you say the same for yourself? And if so, why are you defending this call to violence?
It's honestly hard to believe that you're this incapable of thinking critically. The very logic you object to in my post is logic you employ consistently in your own life. You identify your interlocutor with views and persons they may not necessarily support, and then argue against this fictive colossus you've invented. You'd sooner tie yourself up in knots to make this about Harris and BLM (for some reason??? lol) than dispute the premise, because if you started treating people and their ideas individually instead of lumping them together and asking that people address *everything ever done by someone you disagree with*, it would be much harder for you to defend your ideas. That's why your original post is 100% whataboutism. You're an unserious person with little to say
Meanwhile, I am dismayed, although not surprised, you cannot support your arguments. Still nothing about McVeigh? If you knew so little about him, why did you try to use him as an example of what "my side" allegedly perpetrates?
You complain about whataboutism, but seem to have no problems trying to leverage it yourself. That's the sort of hypocrisy my comment was about. It is disappointing to see how your "critical thinking" skills failed to pick up on that.
Shh, the left are losing their cheap immigrant slave labor here, and the cheap slave labor abroad, is it any wonder that they are trying to start another civil war? Crockett says the left doesn't want to farm and looking at Hogg, I suspect they would be happy to let big brother take care of all the liberals in the Democratic Party. Except, there is no such thing as a free lunch...
Well, the Dems' continued penchant for racism, post-Emancipation, is a subset of their hypocrisy.
Leftist are truly hypocrite scum, mentally ill bastards that lie through their teeth at every opportunity.
Try it, Nick! The sooner you’re behind bars the better off we’ll all be.
Donald Trump shouldn’t be behind bars, he should be below the earth.
@Lo, How long have you hated women Lo? Abrego Garcia MS13
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline
" In late 2002, four illegal Mexicans brutally abducted and gang-raped a 42-year-old mother of two near a railroad in Queens, New York. Three of these illegal rapists had been arrested numerous times for assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession. But pursuant to New York's sanctuary policy, the police had never notified the INS." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg20528/html/CHRG-109hhrg20528.htm
"In Los Angeles, 5 months ago, Carlos Barrera, an illegal Mexican, mugged three people, burglarized two apartments, and attempted to rape a 5-year-old girl. He had been deported 4
years ago for crimes of violence but, of course, had reentered. Since his reentry, he had been stopped twice for traffic violations. But, again, the cops never notified ICE because of
L.A.'s sanctuary policy." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg20528/html/CHRG-109hhrg20528.htm
"In September, 2003, the Miami police arrested a Honduran visa violator for seven vicious rapes. The previous year, Miami cops had had the suspect in custody for lewd and lascivious molestation. Pursuant to Miami's sanctuary law, however, the police had never checked his
immigration status. Had they done so, they would have discovered his deportable status, and could have forestalled the rapes." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg20528/html/CHRG-109hhrg20528.htm
been following you for a while but unsubscribed from you bc of this. you intentionally wrote this in a hyperbolic way to gain attention & enrage people. this is destructive, short-sighted, profoundly uninteresting, and most of all dumb.
I understand. I meant to shock — to wake us up to what may come. I cannot stop what others will think.
For everyone else reading this later, Nicholas was visited by the secret service today and now his life is ruined. Nicholas is a prime example of the dangerous pattern that is befalling our young men - Nick is on the spectrum, impressionable, very desperate for acceptance and admiration, and very online. He is a very small, skinny kid with a kind face and would never say something like this in person yet here he is putting out a massive call for violence seen by a million people. As a result he's completely ruined his entire life and he isn't even old enough to drink yet.
He likely does not fully understand the ramifications of what happened today and how they will follow him around for life, but what happened two days ago is going to haunt him for decades. All because eager activists, grifters, and trolls pray on people like Nick and gas him up into sacrificing themselves for the metaphorical meat grinder to further the hatred and division in this world.
What makes you say his life is ruined? Do you have some inside knowledge, or do you just equate 'visited by secret service due to online writings' with 'life is ruined'?
But you can encourage them to kill.
We see you Nicholas Decker. We see you.
"to wake us up to what may come"
You're actively encouraging it. Stop being obtuse.
@Nicholas Decker,
How exactly is your Straw Man Fallacy supposed to "wake us up"?
As for your "I meant to shock" comment: Reactive Abuse: How the Narcissist Deliberately Pushes Your Buttons. "Toxic people will push you to breaking point with relentless emotional, psychological and verbal abuse. Their goal is to get you to snap so that they can prove how “unhinged” you are."
https://medium.com/@katiabeeden/reactive-abuse-how-the-narcissist-deliberately-pushes-your-buttons-f179ae313ae0
Dipshit alert. 👆
Come the revolution, who in the hell actually are going to be your fav class of door kicking trigger pullers Poindexter Decker? Some world war woke spun up veterans?
Because all I see thus far among the would be John Hinckleys are MK Ultra lite wind up toys, 2 out of 3 including the most recently arrested suspect who murdered his parents in Wisconsin with curious ties to Ukraine. Why it’s almost as if some of you think the ones the Russians don’t turn into fertilizer are going to be your Hessians.
But hey CNN gave Hinckley a nice interview after he was released from federal
prison, after the first known attempt on Trump’s life no less https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iH7EIRoZPI